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Celebrity Influence and Political Twists: Analyzing Selena Gomez, Ryan Reynolds, and Grammy Glimpses 2/5/25
Can public figures truly sway our thoughts on pressing social issues, or are their gestures merely for show? Examining Selena Gomez's recent emotional video, we question the genuine impact of celebrity influence and its entanglement with political landscapes, highlighted by the Trump administration's unexpected engagement. We also dissect the broader ramifications of immigration policies on the ground level, considering both the empathy and critique that come with these discussions. This episode takes you on a journey through the murky waters of celebrity platforms, public expectations, and their potential to drive meaningful discourse in society.
From the glitz of celebrity sightings to the grim realities of tragedy, we cover a spectrum of topics that shape public perception. Ryan Reynolds' curiously orchestrated appearance sparks a conversation on authenticity and public discernment in 2025, while the aftermath of a devastating plane crash in DC demands sensitivity and accurate journalism. We honor the lives lost and critique the political overshadowing that often follows such events, calling for compassion over controversy. Our discussion on Spirit Airlines offers a lighter, yet insightful look at the highs and lows of budget air travel, laced with personal anecdotes and quirky experiences.
Celebrating breakthroughs and cultural triumphs, we shine a spotlight on Tawana Looney's remarkable journey with xenotransplantation and the promise it holds for future medical advances. The 67th annual Grammy Awards serve as a backdrop for our reflections on legendary tributes, historic wins, and the ongoing saga of celebrity feuds. We navigate the sartorial choices of the stars, from Taylor Swift's charming elegance to Bianca's daring statements, questioning the balance between personal agency and public spectacle. With every story, we weave a tapestry of celebrity culture, societal impact, and the ever-evolving power of public perception.
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Hello everyone, welcome to this week's episode of Thirsty Topics. I'm Lawrence Elrod and I am Meryl Clemo. Elrod, and I am Meryl Clemo. We have a very full packed show today.
Speaker 2:It's been a lot of stuff, that's happened since the last time we were here so much the other day, I was like you ever have those moments where you're so saturated with like every single story and social media and I was like the drones, the planes, Selena Gomez, oh yes. And I had to stop myself from like all the Blake Lively Like, yeah, it was like compressing in my head.
Speaker 1:Yeah, there was some sad stuff and a lot of happy stuff all mixed in, so a lot of range of emotions in this week's episode.
Speaker 2:Totally Absolutely. Do you want to go first?
Speaker 1:Actually, I'm going to let you go first.
Speaker 2:Okay, thank you. Well, it's so funny because I always feel like we record and then I feel like the day after we record, no matter what day, it is always something like one thing very funny and weird always happens where I'm like it's going to take a week, but we're going to talk about it, and so for me, that thing was Selena Gomez crying on the internet, which to some is already old news, but there's still elements of it that I want to talk about. Where, for anyone on earth that might not have seen it or heard about it, third party Selena Gomez took to Instagram or TikTok, I think, and then recorded herself crying, basically, which like seemed like a real moment. You know, I very much believe that in that moment she had real feelings and like I totally, absolutely believe that she felt sad and bad and helpless and hopeless, like how a lot of us often feel. But you know, she took some heat because she was saying things like I wish I could do something to help, but I can't really help and, you know, saying some things like my people, which some made their, you know, made that statement kind of fit their agenda of what she was actually saying. So I mean, my thing, too, is Selena definitely tends to get herself in the middle of some things where, like she, I like her, but she definitely does to me.
Speaker 2:I find that she does make herself like a victim a lot of times or like a why me? But I honestly don't think she does it purposefully. I think she's just been like a child star for so many years that she may be like a little bit out of touch, but I really do think she is someone that her heart is in the right place, like I. I don't find her extremely like, rude or you know. I think she actually probably is a good person, just a little like out there. But then what I wanted to talk about is now the Trump administration had taken the video and like posted it on their, on the white house accounts, but then also edited some other things of like people on the other, the border crying and you know, kind of saying like why she shouldn't be crying.
Speaker 2:So I know that's a lot. What do you think about all this?
Speaker 1:Well, I mean, I think that I applaud her for taking a stance on this platform, because she is a big, well-known star. There's a lot of people that listen to her, that love her, that follow her and stuff, and here's the reality of it. People may be making memes about her, laughing and joking all this, but there are negative repercussions that this country is going to feel too by going after all these immigrants. Because, one, there's a lot of businesses I know in my area, um, that are hispanically run and a lot of them have workers that aren't showing up for work. There's a lot of agriculture, like farms and stuff like that, that have workers that are too scared to come to work, and a lot of those things most americans won't do and the immigrants will, so they actually serve a purpose. So it's really too early to know what the effect is, but I think that when someone wants to use their platform for comments, stuff like that, but when you're a big of a star, as she is you know what.
Speaker 1:By this point in her career she probably lets that stuff roll off her back.
Speaker 2:Yeah Well, I think part of it was like the messaging, the way that it was done, because then she took it down and then she posted on her Insta story saying like I guess we can't show empathy anymore. But I feel like I agree with some of the people that were angry about it saying you know, I think she does give a lot of money to like wildfires and I feel like she is someone like taylor swift that donates a lot of her money.
Speaker 2:I think the whole thing would have had more impact if she was like hey, I'm donating five thousand dollars to this, like women's refugee group, or I'm donating this or that, or you know. I think it was kind of like in a moment where she's on there crying, someone had a good statement, where they're like in the middle of all this, like you want us to feel bad for you, you know, like we're not feeling. So I think she could have almost shown like hey, here's some organizations I'm donating to and I'm really upset about this, instead of just kind of crying and saying like I'm sorry, I can't help you.
Speaker 1:But I get it. Yeah, I mean, I get. I mean, some people they handle things differently. Um what I have done, all that crying and everything in front of the camera?
Speaker 2:probably not no, and you feel like, well, we all know, mine would glitch up annoying me.
Speaker 1:I'd be like oh wait, I'm stuck crying but you know, I mean, like I said, everybody, everybody expresses herself in their own way yeah especially the white house reposting it that's true and you know the crazy thing about it is in a sick way, you know, by the white house people.
Speaker 2:Uh, reposting it actually kind of helps her out and they don't realize that, because then people like come to her rescue that were normally yeah, yeah, yeah.
Speaker 1:They see her having empathy and oh yeah, and then you, you're gonna have people that go. Well, who is this person?
Speaker 2:and she may pick up some listeners and fans along the way, because of this too yeah, definitely, and I I think it's a slippery slope because I feel like a lot of times with celebrities whenever they talk, we all find it annoying and like it's like get out of here. But then if they don't say anything, people are like why aren't you speaking up?
Speaker 1:so I could see how it would be confusing yeah, um, like I said, you know, I tip my hat off to her. You know, again, I probably wouldn't have did the crying thing, but outside of that, you're so nice. I applaud her, you know oh my god, so you're.
Speaker 2:so we have a good balance, because I'm just like she's a perpetual victim. It's good, though, because I feel like a lot of times we'll represent, like what people feel on the internet. You know, not everyone sees the same thing, like all the same ways, but I love that.
Speaker 1:Oh yeah, you got to have a healthy conversation.
Speaker 2:Absolutely Healthy thirsty conversations. I.
Speaker 1:There you go. Talk about thirsty. I don't know if you heard this or not, but athletes, primarily female athletes around the country have been stalked, where there are people that know their flight itinerary, meet them at the airport, kind of bombard them for signatures and stuff. A lot of these signatures, like for some of these athletes, are worth a lot of money and you know it's kind of creepy when you think about it, especially when it's the same group of people, at different points that you go to, that are there, because that's kind of like borderline stalking.
Speaker 1:Some people will call it stalking. It definitely is, I mean, do you think that's kind of concerning, though, if you were an athlete, and everywhere you go you kind of see the same group of people there?
Speaker 2:Yeah. Do you think are these people that are there to then get their autograph to resell it, or do you think they're, like crazy fans for the person itself, or a mixture of both?
Speaker 1:I think honestly, because some people think it's organized Okay, because this happens to way too many athletes I think it's for reselling the autographs and making money personally.
Speaker 2:Wow, then that's like that's not fair. I feel like that should be. You shouldn't hound someone If anything, like after a game, or there should be some time where they're actually on the clock working, because I feel like right now they're not working're traveling, you know I don't know, and I would I wonder if most of them travel with uh, either like private security or team security.
Speaker 2:I would have to think that that would be. Hopefully they have like people with them, um, but no, I think that's a weird place and like the airport should kind of be a sanctuary area where people shouldn't get hounded.
Speaker 1:Oh yeah, and you know the thing is, some people go well, you know why? Can't they just hire security? Well, there's only a small percentage that are like really wealthy. Yeah, if they have security, they pay for their own security. No one else pays for that. That's not free. So I agree with you, I think it's kind of sad that the airports aren't doing a little bit more, because no one deserves to be harassed at a airport. I would think that that would be some kind of major risk to the airport that you know you got these people constantly following people around from airport to airport.
Speaker 2:You know, I know, and so and those people I guess, are parking at the airport and obviously they're not going in where you get the ticket, but they're going in where they get out. Like that is. That is annoying. Also, like, do men's teams get security? Cause I feel like I could picture with, like a basketball team, them having some type of like already, not even private, but like it comes with the team.
Speaker 1:Well, I'm quite sure that if the athletes are with their team, there's probably security, um, but if they're by themselves, I would I mean, I don't know, but I would think that the security would be on them yeah, that's really scary and I bet I would bet that some of the people probably have followed them home in a car or like wherever they're going, you know, getting their rental car like that.
Speaker 2:I don't, I would not put it above people doing that.
Speaker 1:Oh yeah, I mean, if you think about even the NBA, where top salary in the WNBA, I want to say it was around $75,000 a year.
Speaker 2:Oh my gosh Really.
Speaker 1:Men in the NBA. Their top salary is, you know it could be anywhere from $10 $20 million a year yeah.
Speaker 1:Or more depending on who you are. So you know, when you're making that kind of money, yeah, you can definitely have a full-time security, which you can. Yeah, and you know the thing is, women's sports are actually very competitive. They actually have a lot of people that are interested in watching them and following them. You know, I kind of hope that the pay kind of helps balance out a little bit, because these are the little things that people overlook, why they need more pay and why a lot of those athletes go overseas because they don't make the money here in the States.
Speaker 2:Yeah, that makes sense. I feel like if I was like a famous athlete, I would almost schedule something once a month where I'm like OK, real, actual fans can come and I'll sign anything you want, but like I'll just have a policy where I will never sign anything getting off a plane or like never sign anything from you know, paparazzi like on the side of the hotel or whatever. But I would be like, if you want to, I'll sign anything like in this day in New York.
Speaker 1:But you know what? That's actually good because one by having fans there true fans that to me makes it a little bit safer. So if someone does come in there with ill intentions, there's people that's going to stop them.
Speaker 2:Yes, yeah, no, that is scary, though, knowing that. I remember hearing. Remember didn't someone's football player? His house just got broken into. Was it like Joe Burrows or something, or?
Speaker 1:Several.
Speaker 2:Really, because I've heard that's a thing too, where people will track their schedules and then know that they're out of the, they're not home and that they have like these big beautiful houses and that they target them too.
Speaker 1:Oh yeah, I mean there's been multiple athletes and the crazy thing, they do it while they're playing, so it's like they know their full schedule, they know their house is empty, so you can tell they're being cased and this is like all throughout the United States from various teams, so you can kind of tell it's organized, it's not. It's not just a bunch of guys is getting together doing this, it's actually an organized group doing it.
Speaker 2:Yeah, and also I know how I am at airports and the last thing I want to do, I just want to go buy, like a Hershey's chocolate bar. I don't want to sign stuff or anything, so I feel like I would be like so annoyed and you know you get off with like the head pillow and you're tired and you're always like so bloated after a flight.
Speaker 1:I'm like I don't want you. I hear you. It's beginning to be a crazy world, merle.
Speaker 2:I know. Okay, my next thing is a perfect transition, because I think this is so silly. So, speaking of someone that maybe staged a meet and greet, and you know, I think I'm like I told you from the beginning, I'm a conspiracy theorist and I think I found a conspiracy I like. So I don't know if you've seen the videos, but Ryan Reynolds, who has been way in the news lately, of course, because of the Baldoni case, has you know? Now people are saying last week we talked about how he's him and Blake were posting like Instagram stories that to make it extra look like hey, here's our friends.
Speaker 2:And like, hey, we're good people. And recently it went viral on TikTok video people. And recently it went viral on TikTok video of him with a meet and greet but, like audience members quickly rushed to the idea that it's fake because everyone has like the same Deadpool thing and people are like everyone is just saying Ryan, ryan, ryan, like no one's saying anything different, and everyone is like I smell a rat and so I am part of that.
Speaker 2:Of course, but the incident took place outside new york city, where you know it's not unlike for ryan to obviously get swarms of people anyway if they know he's there, but the fact that, like everyone had a blue marker and like dead pit pool paraphernalia just right there ready to go and it just seems so fake and like everyone that I know, I don't know, I just got caught up in the wave where I'm like, oh he's just, he's framing this to like look even more famous. I feel like you believe in it because you're sweet and innocent you know what I think was real wink, wink, no.
Speaker 2:I'm not worried about that, like that's. I'm sorry, but, and I love this kind of stuff because this is why so much, I love TikTok and like any anything that gives the voice to the people, because people aren't falling for the same bull. You know what you know. I just think, like I think nowadays in 2025, we're able to see through whether it's fake or not, like we're able to discern things a little bit more and kind of see when things are rigged and fake. So I love it.
Speaker 2:I mean, if it wasn't laid on a little bit thick, maybe they could have put it on yeah, and one of the things is people said celebrities rarely sign things with blue pens because I guess that's the marker that ends up like transferring and people resell it. So someone is like, yeah, ryan would like absolutely not sign something with a blue pen.
Speaker 1:I never did that Okay.
Speaker 2:Yep, Yep, Just I mean, who knows how real that is. But just one piece of thing that I saw I just love like, if that's the case, I love the thought of these like celebrities and PR people putting this out, thinking they could hoodwink us. And then I love the idea of, like the wave of people just coming back and like making fun of them and making it 10 times worse. And like to me, if I was Blake and Ryan, like you, you, you have to choose a different path than what you're doing, Cause all of this is just making it look even more insincere and like even more crazy.
Speaker 1:Yeah, I think that when you're in the middle of you know any kind of legal proceeding, you gotta be careful what you do. You gotta be careful what you say, because sometimes what you do or say can backfire on you.
Speaker 2:Yeah, it is. And in this day and age, everyone's like extra cynical right now, you know, I think also in times of economic hardship and like inflation and stuff, we tend to get extra like nibbly on each other and things, and I think people are like looking for what's fake and I think right now is the time to just like be real with people.
Speaker 1:Yeah, that's true. I mean. The thing is is that you know, even though we laugh, we joke about it and stuff like that, but when you're in a court proceeding everything you say and do, both potential jurors and the courts are actually looking at it. You have to be careful how you do stuff, because the last thing you want to do is give the opposition ammunition they need to beat your case yes, yes, and I think no one is impressed nowadays like that's not going to change anyone's opinion.
Speaker 2:If I'm team justin baldoni and I see ryan doing like a meet and greet, I'm not going to be like whoa, actually he's famous, never mind like and like it. Just I can't see how like an action like that would actually help sway anyone's opinion. Or maybe it's just to make them feel better, but I don't know.
Speaker 1:That's true, that's true, but you got to give them an A for effort, though, right.
Speaker 2:I don't know this one. I give Selena maybe a B-minus and I give Ryan a C+, but I am obsessed now, whether it's the younger kids, kids, or I think it might be Gen Z or something, but I love how people are seeing things and they're like. This doesn't feel right to me. Let's at least like talk about it.
Speaker 1:I love that so much. That's true. That's true. That tells you people are paying attention, though, right.
Speaker 2:Yeah, exactly.
Speaker 1:Exactly Well, unfortunately, I do want to acknowledge something very horrific that has happened. This is talking about the DC plane crash. Oh, my God, With the airliner crash into a military helicopter. You know for me, Merle, the team here at Thirsty Topics, Thirsty Conversation, the Elroy TV network, we definitely want to send out our thoughts and prayers to those families who have lost their loved ones. You are definitely in our thoughts and our prayers today. Just wow, I mean just wow.
Speaker 2:Yeah.
Speaker 1:Let me ask you a question what? What was your reaction when you saw the story break?
Speaker 2:oh, my god, like horrific. You know, knowing that I don't know if we'll ever hear the actual, like real truth of what really happened and what. You know, whether it's an accident or whatever happened, on what account. Um, but my first thought was just the human part really, which is just putting myself in these people's situations of like that feeling when you're so close to landing on a plane and you're already kind of thinking ahead of what you're going to be doing and, like you know, I'm one of those people which I'm sure many people are where it's like you start kind of texting people like landed, even though you haven't quite landed yet, and so just thinking of all those people that were in that doing that, and the, the crew, and the fact that the plane was going like just straight along, thinking that they were, you know, doing their thing, and all of a sudden this horrific thing happened.
Speaker 2:Um, not so much like it doesn't make me beyond scared of flying in general, because I think, sadly, these things just do happen every now and then, but it's like, I don't know, it's just so unexpected and so terrible that it's obviously like extremely tragic and I don't know if you saw too, but they released a photo of like two of the people and sitting there and then you could see like all the other just kind of normal, everyday looking people that just look like they'd be on a flight and they're all sitting behind and it's so eerie knowing what's about to happen.
Speaker 1:Yeah, I mean, the scary thing about it was it was so instant and so quick and you know there's questions about you know, was it pilot error? You know? Did the pilot in the military helicopter did they see? You know the?
Speaker 2:plane.
Speaker 1:Were they looking at the wrong plane? I just want to say for people they should really stop doing that until it's officially what happens. Obviously the family is paying attention too. Some of the things coming out as well. This could have been prevented.
Speaker 2:We don't know. We don't know who the air traffic controllers were. We don't know who the we don't know. Yet it's weird nowadays, too, that we have to put a political spin on everything right away. Yeah.
Speaker 1:Yeah, because the thing about it is that you have to understand this is so hurtful to the families and sometimes the families kind of get lost in the shuffle. Yeah, these 67 people have families that are mourning their deaths. They're still hurting right now.
Speaker 2:Yeah. And weren't they like figure skaters? Or some of their figure skaters were on there too, just coming from like a practice or a championship, or they were coming from.
Speaker 1:I mean, these were a lot of kids. Yeah, you know, one thing that no parent wants to do is bury their child. I mean, that's one, to me, one of the most horrific things you could have to do as a parent. And you know, lay off all the well this could happen. Oh, it was DEI, it was this and that. Lay off all that nonsense. Right, more we don't know. Of course it's not DEI. So stop with that nonsense as well, too, and just just let them have a time to mourn. Yes, once it comes out, they will tell us what happened. Ok, right now, it's all speculation, that's all it all it is exactly.
Speaker 2:I feel like the only conversation besides the human like tragedy, one that maybe could peak out in the next couple of days, would be like at the actual airport, at the dc airport, because I've heard from people too that that's like a congested airport and that seems to be happening a lot, and I'm like that would be the only thing right away where I'm like, okay, maybe you need to stop, like, the training right there at night immediately or stop whatever's happening. But other than that, you're right, I don't think there should be any speculation, rather than just like is this airport too crowded or congested sometimes? And if so, let's stop that today.
Speaker 1:And the thing is, is that, unfortunately, we you know, fortunately we will learn from this? Yeah, once it's said, you know, I guess, because the military's involved and I could be wrong, I don't know if they'll be 100 transparent, I hope they know, I don't think they would I know, I know if it was two just regular aircrafts, I think it's different.
Speaker 1:But once the military's involved, two just regular aircrafts, I think it's different. But once the military's involved, they may or may not be 100. They have to say something. They just can't ignore it. But I guess the question is how transparent do you think they will be?
Speaker 2:Yeah, I don't at all. Either the military will try to cover something up or I don't know, and especially if it doesn't play into the dei initiative, it's just, and also like I don't know if you heard when, and this is like anyone of any political partisan belief could like think this is ridiculous. But when trump gave his speech about it, like his big long thing, he was saying what the, the faa was, was looking for, and he made it sound like they're actively recruiting like paralyzed people with no limbs and like that's what they're looking for. And I'm like he's making it sound like they're just looking for people that are not good at their jobs, when they're just trying to have like a clause saying basically we'll interview anyone and we're not like only going to hire dwarfs. Or you know he was saying these things, that I'm like he was saying these things and I'm like I feel like I'm watching a crazy movie.
Speaker 1:Well, I give you credit for watching way more than I did, because when he first came on he had the silence and honor for the victims. I thought that was the appropriate thing. I applaud him for that. But then when he started to tell the DEI nonsense, I turned away. There was no way I would watch that.
Speaker 2:I know it was, and he basically read off what the FAA was looking, what was actively recruiting, but he made it sound as though, like they're only going to be hiring air traffic controllers that have, that are missing limbs or that are paralyzed. My boyfriend and I were watching it and just cracking up because of, like I know what he's trying to do, but it's not no one, I think, is going to believe that like what, what they're just trying to find, like air traffic controllers only that are not good at their job. That's not what was happening. So and we don't even know if that was like, if that was the case.
Speaker 1:Besides being crazy, you know that wasn't the time to do that. That was not the time to do that.
Speaker 2:No, it's just time to comfort the loved ones.
Speaker 1:It was so ridiculous and so disrespectful. Yeah, and I'm no dummy, I know that politics is very thick in this country yeah, even on both sides of the aisle people were like this is ridiculous, this is just despicable. It was disgusting and, like I said, even though we don't talk about a lot of it on the show, I do watch politics. I had to turn away from that that was really yeah, really ridiculous.
Speaker 1:You know, and the thing is, here's the crazy thing about it, now that they released all the pictures and stuff yeah, the pilots were white men. Yeah, women, I mean, they weren't, you know, african-americans, they weren't Latinos. So, and even if they were, so what? You know, so what?
Speaker 2:But just to show you how stupid and ridiculous that conversation was, I know, again trying to make it sound like everything's falling apart because of that. Yeah, it's just, it's ridiculous and I think it should have only been talked about that like a tragedy just happened. We're going to stop all the training, like for the next week in Washington, and figure out what's happening, or we're going to move the training, you know, like anything that was actually happening on plane crashes, or is the aviation industry like a little less safe than it always is? You know, I don't really know, but I know after that there's been a whole rash of not as large crashes, but there was that one in Philadelphia.
Speaker 2:There was like Santa Barbara, there was two here in California, but it's like a lot of times these things happen. We just now they're sensationalized because you know, oh yeah.
Speaker 1:I mean the one in Philadelphia, the one, uh, that actually kind of caught everybody's um attention, because that was literally what a day or two after, yeah. So you know, that was kind of like wow, you know, because there were people on the ground, they got I think one person on the ground that got killed as well, everybody on the helicopter was killed. And then you know, every time you turn around you know planes are bumping to each other.
Speaker 2:I know Everyone's deplaning yeah.
Speaker 1:It's like I still believe in flying, but I don't lie to you.
Speaker 2:It makes you a little nervous though, oh my gosh, I flew back and forth to Seattle, which luckily is only like a two-hour flight, but I left the next day after the DC thing.
Speaker 2:So I flew next morning at 6am and like the vibe was so somber, it was just we were walking on the plane and, like I'll tell you, I like I feel like pilots are such heroes to me and I feel like they did such a good job. They told like a little dad joke about dad's liking plain bagels and so it. It was like you could tell these are humans too and they're probably shaken up and they're upset and everything, but they did everything in their power to make us feel safe. And then the Philly thing happened, and then I had to have a plane ride home like the next day, and it was just I was really trying to just focus on like the beauty and the fact that these things are still very rare and the fact that, like I don't want to live in fear which I think a lot of us but being on a plane is scary for like myself and a lot of people. I'm not going to lie.
Speaker 2:So when we hear these things, it's just natural to feel even more like apprehensive.
Speaker 1:That's true, that's true. I literally just saw this report on the news and I don't remember where it was at, but, um, there was a plane that was flying I don't want to say the wrong airline, but people were looking out the window and looks like one of the engines had a little fire on there. Now, being that, you know, this crash just happened. Yeah, you can just imagine what's going through their minds as they watch fire come from a wing outside oh my gosh, I would.
Speaker 2:My anxiety would be, I would be like on the on the plane jumping off and it's like, wow, not a good timing no, and I think like all because I'm I used to be a very, very, very anxious flyer, I really feel like I've conquered a lot of my anxiety. I would really cry on a plane. I would have to go to like the in the airports. I would go to like the prayer room and like bawl my eyes out, and it used to be a very like physically painful experience.
Speaker 2:But then I just but people would always say to me like oh, you have a work more of a chance of getting into a car accident, or like being killed by a shark. I'm like, but those things don't feel scary. Like you know, I'm not scared the whole time in my car, I'm scared the whole time in the plane and it's like I feel like it's such a natural feeling to be driving for most of us, but it's like not natural to go up in the sky and like be in a tube and give up all your control to someone else, like navigating. So I get it.
Speaker 1:Yeah, I mean, that's the thing. I think it's the control, because in a car you have full control. Yes, even though you may not control what's going on outside of your vehicle, you do control your vehicle. Yeah, in that plane you pretty much have to trust those two people in the cockpit. And oh, there was a story this is kind of getting a little bit off base, but there was a story of this pilot that was arrested because he showed up to work drunk.
Speaker 2:I just saw that and it's like dude, I feel like he should get double arrested during this month. It's like if you're doing that now, like with all of us scared, you should get like, whatever the next penalty would be.
Speaker 1:I'm like, dude, you picked now this time to do this, yeah.
Speaker 2:Yeah, yeah, and I'm like just stay home and drink whatever you need to, but yeah, yeah, that's, it's terrifying and but I mean, like I think this was uh, the american crash was like the biggest commercial one since it was 2009 or 2006 or it's been a. It's been a long time, right like yeah, that's true it has been.
Speaker 1:But, like I said, we we send our, our prayers and and um and thoughts out to those families and hopefully we get to the bottom what happens and prevent it from happening again yeah, yep, and that's the thing that too, sometimes with crashes in the past, that has been helpful, where it's like every tragic event then hopefully leads us forward with like some safety mechanism.
Speaker 2:However, I still feel like I'm not scared of flying, but but boeings I'm getting less and less because, like when I was looking up the records of the stuff and I'm just like, oh my God, it seems like not something like what happened on this situation, cause that was like totally unpredictable and unplannable, but like Boeing's, every single thing it's like, oh, the wheel just like popped off or the door blew open, so crazy. Okay, well, this is. I did not plan this to be the next thing, but now we're going to go into like a silly airline thing. So we're still thinking of our very heavy thoughts about the tragedy, but now just lighthearted news for a palate cleanser which you could just imagine everyone laughing saying like spirit airlines, this card kind of already like the walmart of the the airlines, you know. So, if you, I have been on spirit airlines a few times and like the dress, no one is walking a catwalk there.
Speaker 2:It's very much like giving dmv outfit vibes, um, but obviously people have been abusing maybe some of the relaxed nature. So now people are saying that the new dress code, you're not wearing see-through clothing, which the fact that they even have to say that is ridiculous. You can't. You have to basically cover your buttocks, your breasts and your private parts. So the fact that people were bearing everything on spare airlines is already ridiculous. After this, like very sad situation, I decided I don't think I'm going to fly Spirit anymore, not because they're unsafe, but because if I was one of the people to go through a sad thing, I just couldn't have all my friends and family know that I was flying Spirit. My legacy that would be just so. I don't know, it's just not the way I want to Go out. But have you ever flown a Spirit flight?
Speaker 1:One time and never again.
Speaker 2:Yeah, and it's like you can feel the plane going. They do have great deals, but I think it's good if you don't need to pack Anything else and if you could just like. Yeah, if you're just ready to go to Las Vegas With like a backpack, it's the Thing for you.
Speaker 1:I mean the two things about Spirit is one they nickel and dime you for everything. I'm surprised they don't charge you for breathing. I mean they literally nickel and dime you for everything. And then when I was on the Spirit maybe because I'm a taller guy or whatever, but my knees and the back of the chair was like this oh, yeah, yeah. And this is with his seat, straight up.
Speaker 1:It wasn't even leaning back yeah so I'm like no, I'm never doing this again. And then, plus, like you said, if you take more, more than one bag, you're charged for that bag. You know you're. They literally charge for every little thing. That's like, yes, with all the little fees and stuff, you might as well get on another airline you, I had to throw one of my, I think, when I was younger.
Speaker 2:I flew it. I like ran out of money on my vacation and then I had to book one from New York to Miami for like $18. And then I just I had no money and they were like, well, you could either pay like $89 or you could just get rid of your bag with a few t-shirts, and so I like lost a few items of clothing. Now, what is your typical uh, like airport wear? Are you someone that wears sweatpants, or do you wear? Do you try to dress up, or like somewhere in the middle?
Speaker 1:You know what I wear? Jeans, jeans, maybe a shirt or t-shirt, something like that because I want to be comfortable. And then Because I want to be comfortable, and then, of course, I want to be able to get in and out of my pockets quickly Because, you know, when you're going through security you got to take everything out and then put everything back. So I just try and be as quick as possible, you know, okay.
Speaker 2:How about you? Honestly, it's so funny. I feel like one of the many non-anxiety tips that for me that it helped me to like I don't dress in like a business woman, but I definitely dress up a little bit because I think sometimes if I was going in like sweatpants or just kind of clothing where I didn't feel comfortable or like confident in, it was almost making me feel like I had the flu or you know, like it was making me almost feel too sleepy and too whatever. But I felt like something that helps my anxiety is I get dressed up like nicely and do my hair just so I feel like I'm almost like I'm busy on my day. I'm like, oh, a flight is just like a normal thing on my day. I'm not like dressing like I'm home watching the Price is Right or anything.
Speaker 1:Oh no, I could definitely understand that. I mean, I can say I tip my head off to people to fly spirit. I just won't do it again.
Speaker 2:These dress codes are so funny that they have to say like please don't wear see-through clothes on your $20 flight to Idaho.
Speaker 1:Don't you think it's kind of sad that they even have to say that though?
Speaker 2:Yeah, but it definitely I mean the people that I saw that were. I mean, I was amongst them but like the New York to Miami crew, people were wearing the weirdest. Everyone had just lost their minds. It was not a great bunch of. I was part of it.
Speaker 1:It sounded like a very memorable flight.
Speaker 2:It was. I didn't know too. It was my first time flying in an Airbus and I didn't know the hydraulics. It makes different sounds than normal planes that I was used to, all these kind of things. I was like, oh my God, we're going down. They're like no, no, no, this is just like what Spirit sounds like Alrighty, now Sounds like poverty.
Speaker 1:So yes, Well, hey, like I said, there's a customer that would love.
Speaker 2:Spirit and very high safety rating, so not a lot of bad marks on their safety record.
Speaker 1:I mean, I will give them this. If you don't have very much money and you need to fly, it is an option.
Speaker 2:Definitely, but yeah, now fly. Have you booked any flights like after this whole thing has happened or not?
Speaker 1:not yet, but I will have to soon, so luckily it's not right away.
Speaker 2:So I think, I think you'll, I know you'll be fine, yeah just let things kind of simmer down a little bit. I know that's how I feel, just like give it a few weeks or something. But yeah, definitely tragic and sad.
Speaker 1:Yeah, talk about sad and safety. Yeah, this goes back to what we talked about a few times about people with animals. In China, a mermaid swimmer this is a person that dresses up like a mermaid, you know, jumps into the little man-made pond or tank or whatever that they have. They're swinging with different types of fish, sometimes sharks or whatever. This swimmer, she was attacked by a large fish in there that basically put its whole head, its whole mouth, on top of her head. Luckily she wasn't really hurt or anything, but it kind of was like yeah, see, that's what you get. I mean, I don't know. I just still have a certain feeling about Miss Wild Animals.
Speaker 2:Personally, I don't know what about you?
Speaker 1:You think you could do that?
Speaker 2:Meryl is like hey, Meryl, we're going to hire you.
Speaker 1:You got to swim with this fish with this mermaid suit on. It's a big, giant fish that looks like a shark, but he's.
Speaker 2:Yeah, don't worry about it that's what I was gonna say is I want people to know that haven't seen the video. When we say fish, we don't mean like a little trout or a flounder or something. We. When I saw the video I truly thought it was a shark, like it really looks it does look like a shark, doesn't it?
Speaker 2:yeah, and and they can hurt. I I don't know if it had any like teeth, like things or you know sharp edges, but I saw that video and that really looked like it hurt and it could have like knocked her out or it really could have almost like snapped her neck or you know the way that or like I don't know, fish get the wrong. Just if he did that, he whatever the shark's gender was, if it did that and then like slapped her with its tail, like people really could get knocked out and then if there's no one there to help you, like it could become a very serious thing. So no, I'm very, very like I love animals so much but I'm at a distance with them, like horses. I just I love from afar and I'm very, very cautious, even like dogs lately I won't really go up unless I totally know that the dog is really friendly or if it comes up to me first.
Speaker 1:Like I said, I still have a phobia. I'll watch you. Would I get in there with them? Absolutely.
Speaker 2:I think what's going to happen is there's going to soon be real people swimming with AI fish. Next month they're going to swap out the fish for some AI.
Speaker 1:Yeah, the sad part is, somebody's probably already working on that too.
Speaker 2:Yeah, yeah. But I saw that and I was like, oh my gosh. I hope that person is A okay and B is able to. If she loves doing her job, I hope she's not too afraid to go back and do it.
Speaker 1:I mean, she's probably had close encounters before and probably did get back in there and, like I said, there's a lot of enthusiasts that love going out, messing with wild animals and stuff and being friends with them and all this hugging up. It's almost like what you see online, where you see these people hugging these big tigers and oh yeah, lions, and like, yeah, okay, make sure you have your affairs in order.
Speaker 2:Just in case you know exactly my uh, we were just with family all together, and my boyfriend's brother was the only one of like nine of us and his dream is to go swimming with sharks. And it's so funny because, like no one else in the family wants to cage dive or, like you know, you go on these four-day expeditions and in the middle of the third day that you go down to the ocean and it's like nope, sorry, like I have no, I have no like desire whatsoever to like be on the ocean for that long or go in a tank with sharks eating me so you wouldn't, you wouldn't get in the tank with them.
Speaker 1:No, I'll, I'll be at a Marriott Eating chicken wings and stuff.
Speaker 2:I think I'm missing a lot of the adrenaline stuff that people have, because I don't need to be dunked in water With a shark on me or anything.
Speaker 1:I want luxury.
Speaker 2:I don't need any of this stuff.
Speaker 1:I'll take the.
Speaker 2:Spirit flight to the Caribbean Islands.
Speaker 1:Here at the hotel I got you babe. I'm cheering you on, go for it.
Speaker 2:Yeah, I don't know if you've seen before too. It's either Bahamas or Bermuda, but there's this island that you can go swimming with feral pigs. I think it's the Bahamas, where you can go in the ocean and there's many, many pigs. But then I've heard lately too that pigs will take a little bite of people's ankles or there might be diseases and as much as like being with little pigs sounds fun to me. I'm too like neurotic and anxious about that kind of stuff.
Speaker 1:I may sound very ill-informed by asking this question, but what are pigs doing in the water in the first place?
Speaker 2:I know, I know when we get, when we, when we log off of this too. I'll send you the video. But it says a lot of influencers do it that it's these pigs that just go swimming in this crystal blue water and everyone wants to get pictures of them with selfies with 800 pigs. But now they're starting to disease creeps in and bacteria and all that kind of stuff.
Speaker 1:Yeah, being that, pigs will swim in anything and eat anything. Yeah, I can kind of see that happening.
Speaker 2:Yeah.
Speaker 1:And if they're taking care of their business In the water with you. Yeah, that's not good, but hey, they got that photo though, right.
Speaker 2:Yep, that's all that matters oh that was a good one. That was a good one. Okay, let's see.
Speaker 2:Oh, good okay something else that I don't want to do Is get arrested for cyber farting, which this is my first time I've sentenced to 15 rehab sessions and 60 days of alcohol abstinence. So pretty much she was like sending video after video of her I hate to even say farting, but like tooting and just basically harassing harassing but like so many puns. But yeah, it was pretty pretty weird. And so she was like sending a million videos of herself and I could just imagine if, like that, was my boyfriend's ex sending it to me, I'd be like oh yeah, keep sending it, because he's gonna want, he's not gonna want you anymore. Like you know, that's gonna make the competition is not gonna be very high after you're sending this yeah, I.
Speaker 1:I would say that she must still want him to be here. Yeah, but what? A weird way to do that. It's a very sick weird way to do that.
Speaker 2:In the video she positioned the camera to capture herself passing wind while looking at the camera. It's kind of funny if you do it once. It's a little ridiculous if you do it as a screw you to someone. But she sent it over and over, yeah.
Speaker 1:I think she's got some issues there.
Speaker 2:Yeah, I do too. Imagine being in the courtroom for this and being the judge. You have serious cases and then now you have that.
Speaker 1:Oh yeah, judge Robert would look like. Are you serious this? Is my jacket for the day.
Speaker 2:Now, I know you're a happily married man, but you don't have any exes that would come into the fold and do this, do you?
Speaker 1:No.
Speaker 2:No. I don't either.
Speaker 1:And I don't know. To me there's some things going on that why would you think this is okay in the first place? Yeah, Out of all the things to do. Yeah, you picked that.
Speaker 2:Exactly. It's almost like what do they call it when the young kids and this is so funny, this is like I'm like what like crashing out is that term now Like when they you just kind of lose your mind and go crazy. I feel like this is definitely like a very flatulent version of crashing out.
Speaker 1:Yeah, I feel like this is definitely a very flatulent version of Crashing Out. Yeah, I would have loved to have seen the judge, though, when they saw that come across their caseload. Yeah, what the. Yeah, if I was that girl.
Speaker 2:I mean, not only did you kind of win, but the new girlfriend, but like now you get to put that person in jail for a little bit.
Speaker 1:If I were to meet a person like that and knew that passed, yeah, there wouldn't be no relationship.
Speaker 2:Yeah, that's disgusting, and the fact too, that you can't really see someone farting. So it just has to be you to hear it and believe it.
Speaker 1:It's disgusting, very, very disgusting. But we're going to switch this up to a very, very big topic. There is a woman Her name is Tawana Looney Hopefully I pronounced her name correctly but she right now is the longest living patient that has received a pig kidney. So she was in a situation where she needs a kidney really bad and she couldn't be on the donor list any longer because time was basically running out. And because of that situation, they came up with an alternative for her where they offered her the opportunity of getting a pig kidney. Well, obviously she jumped at it because she had no other options. Without that kidney she wouldn't be around any longer.
Speaker 1:So everything went well, the surgery went great. She still has to do a lot of check-ins and stuff like this to monitor and make sure everything's going well. That was actually a feel-good. I actually like stuff like this because there's so many people who unfortunately die while waiting for a transplant, waiting for organs, and this is a good way to um, kind of supplement that to kind of help people out, especially, you know, running out of time, I don't know what do you think?
Speaker 2:I mean I think that's amazing, the fact that our medical system there's's so many genius, brilliant people in it the fact that someone could even like do those experimental surgeries in the first place to even realize that someone did that you know that it works and like I wouldn't even know how someone would like think of that and then also do the procedures to like see if it would work out or not. It's just like people are so brilliant. So that makes me really happy and I'm hoping it's not one of the pigs that were swimming in the Bahamas with the influencers. But I mean this could open up like a whole new thing. If it, I mean if this really works like that could be a total game changer. Yeah.
Speaker 1:Oh yeah, I mean my doing the kidneys, you know, maybe the heart, maybe other vital organs, and, like I say, it's a game changer as far as being able to extend people's life and as far as rejection I don't know the statistics on that, but again, I think it gives us new hope and gives us a lot of options to, you know, living, not only living a longer life, but living a more quality life too.
Speaker 2:I love that.
Speaker 1:Because you know, living and living in pain is not really living. You know what I mean? Yeah, so to be able to live a healthy life, and okay, maybe there's some adjustments that you had to make, but it's better than the alternative, you know.
Speaker 2:Yep, you know how they have like pacemakers for hard disease. I really feel like it's only a matter of time before they're able to almost come up with like the Beyond Burger version of like all of our organs. I'm sure they absolutely have like pretend gallbladders and stuff right now, but I feel like we're just close to having it be like a seamless thing where it's like, oh, someone could have like a you know an intestine made out of whatever else, but then like it works like flawlessly fine. I think that's so interesting.
Speaker 1:I agree. Like I said, I love stories like this and I'm looking forward to more of them.
Speaker 2:Yeah, and wait, how old did you say she was?
Speaker 1:You know what? They didn't mention her age. But looking at her I would have to say she's probably, I would say maybe, in her maybe late 40s, around 50 maybe and again I'm just guessing because they didn't say what her age was. I'm quite sure I could look it up and find out.
Speaker 2:Oh yeah, no, but she's good. That's amazing.
Speaker 1:Absolutely.
Speaker 2:Okay, the good stuff. Now we're going to get into some Grammy talk. I tried to. We won't do this for the next hour, but I easily could talk about the Grammys with you for an hour. But last night was the 67th annual Grammy Awards and hosted by Trevor Noah, which I feel like of all the things I've heard about. I haven't heard a lot of Trevor Noah talk, but he's such a regular.
Speaker 2:I think this was his fifth time doing it, so at this point he's, you know he's good, he's, he's greased in, he's doing awesome, and so some of the people, the people's choices like of you know things to discuss were album of the year Beyonce, which we'll get back to talking about her, which made her, I think, the first Black woman to receive the honor, I think. So. Record of the song of the year Kendrick Lamar Not Like Us, I'm just. We'll obviously talk about all these, but just wanted to kind of give a little overview. Best new artist Chapel Roan. Best pop vocal album Serena Carpenter. And best rap album Dochi, who I love so much.
Speaker 1:So I wanted to get your thoughts.
Speaker 2:You go first. Tell me everything you think.
Speaker 1:You know what I thought? It was actually really good. There were some surprises. One big surprise and I don't know if people noticed it or not, but Will Smith was there- he was.
Speaker 2:I saw his kids. One of them had like a house on their face.
Speaker 1:But yeah, not only was he there, but he was a. You know he was a present well, not really a presenter, but you know he gave a speech on um.
Speaker 2:He did quincy jones yeah oh my gosh, I didn't. That's so funny because it didn't. I didn't really watch the whole thing. I watched like a lot of the highlights, okay, yeah you know they did a tribute to quincy j.
Speaker 1:you know he was talking about him and you know kind of give him his props. And you know Quincy Jones, from the acting side, discovered Will Smith. Really he did the Fresh Prince of Bel-Air. That was Quincy Jones' project. I did not know that he was a producer on that. So you know, really Will Smith owes a lot to that man, you know, and actually he's an alma mater of the college. My son goes to Berklee College of Music.
Speaker 2:Oh my, which is like one of the best colleges in music that there is. That's such a, that's such like an honor to even go there. That's amazing.
Speaker 1:Oh, yeah, I mean, I think the performances were really good. Um the you know the dresses this year, I have to admit they were really nice. Yeah, they were. They were elegant at the same time.
Speaker 2:Yeah, you know what I mean yes, I thought so many people look beautiful. I thought like olivia rodrigo looked absolutely stunning and people like classed it up and no one would. And I feel like people like doji looked awesome and was creative, but they weren't like tasteless, like she still looks so classy exactly, exactly.
Speaker 1:And you know, everybody still showed their style, but they did it in a very elegant way, absolutely. I I tip my hat off to that. I mean it was really nice, people had men and women, they look, everyone looked fabulous, really did.
Speaker 2:I got emotional when I saw Xochitl's, her speech, her acceptance speech, just about like, which I think is such a great message of, just like anyone that's watching this, believe in yourself and I think you know you could accomplish things. And I just I don't know, I love her so much. That was like I know she's already been around and really popular for a while, but to me like that performance was almost like watching like a star is born kind of thing. You know, when someone I love, sabrina Carpenter, I have to say I am not. I am not a Chapel Rhone fan at all. I may, I don't think, which is, I'm sure, like she's, I don't, you know, she's a human, so I'm sure she's fine, but like I rarely say I hate things, when I may have said that last night, which I felt bad to use the H word, but she's not my cup of tea, let's just say that. But people like her, that's fine. And I thought Beyonce seemed extremely surprised to win, like she really actually seemed surprised.
Speaker 1:I think so, I really do. You know I don't like the worst enough, but you know they say that. You know she actually has been nominated more than anyone else.
Speaker 2:Yeah.
Speaker 1:You know it's questionable. She probably should have got her flowers A lot earlier. But I like the fact that she stayed classy. She didn't talk about it, she just kept doing her thing until it was her time, you know.
Speaker 2:Yeah, yeah, yeah, she stayed very classy. The funny thing is I don't know if this was intentional or not, but I think some of her like bra underwires might have been coming out, which is the most relatable female thing, and, like a lot of my friends were posting like this is amazing. This happens to me all the time when, like a lot of the times, you'll get like poked in the face with a piece of my bra. So if that's happening to Beyonce, then like all of us could feel a little better Now. Ok, how do you feel? I know this is controversial, but sometimes Taylor Swift being up and dancing for like absolutely everyone is a little like pick me, I think. I do think she's excited for the music and she's, but like it's a little bit kind of like look at me, I find it.
Speaker 1:You know what little bit kind of like look at me, I find it, you know what. I kind of look at it differently. I look at it as you know. She's one of the biggest stars on the planet.
Speaker 2:Yeah.
Speaker 1:And I think she's at a point in her career where it's like I don't give a F, I'm going to have fun, I'm going to enjoy this ride and I'm going to have a great time. And I tip my hat off to her because she's like hey, I don't have to follow trends, I create them, yeah.
Speaker 2:That's good, okay, good. Once again. I think it's like the different of the, because it's so funny seeing a video of her dancing and then like truly, 50% of the comments will be like what a great girl supporting everyone. Out of the comments will be like what a great girl supporting everyone. Then 50 will be like god, why is?
Speaker 1:everything she makes everything about herself.
Speaker 2:So I think it's a little bit of both, where I do think she's very like, almost like a little kid, very excited, but to me it's like you she is the biggest star and so she knows like half of everything is going to be people looking at her dancing and sometimes I'm just like, please let the other person have like a like their total moment without you being like in the middle of everything. So I get it.
Speaker 2:It could be worse it could be like sitting there with an attitude which would be even worse, you know yeah, and you know what I?
Speaker 1:I get what your point is because, because she's one of the biggest stars on the planet right now that everything she does is going to be watched. So it's like sometimes you can unintentionally take away from someone else's moment. Yeah, yep, yep, I think so it's almost like when you go to a wedding and you got someone that kind of is wearing something similar to a wedding gown and they're not in the wedding. You know, you kind of take it yeah. It could kind of be looked at like that by some people you know Totally.
Speaker 2:It's so funny too. Luckily that doesn't happen a ton for me, but at comedy shows you can just imagine people freaking out when it's not about them and then they're like and then what? And I'm like shut up. But I mean, if someone was standing up for my set the whole time, the way that Taylor went, I'd be like, okay, that's very nice, but sit down, it's good. I think we're all. This is what I mean. It's like if I didn't, we're all chronically online to the point where I'm getting upset about like Chapel Road and like Taylor Swift's standing. So this is all. When I feel this way, it's just a sign to like go hike in the woods and get a life, like I said, you know it's all in good fun.
Speaker 1:I want to ask you a question Getting back to Will Smith Technically, yeah, now technically, he was banned for 10 years.
Speaker 2:Obviously hasn't been 10 years, right? How do you feel about seeing him, uh, at the grammys? Um, in his speech did he reference anything that happened at all?
Speaker 2:oh, absolutely not no, okay, okay, uh. I I feel like it's fine. I think maybe he should have had some like in his speech, like either, maybe not a joke, but like some type of some sentence, of some sentiment of like thank you for like a. You know, I've reflected and thank you for like letting me be part of this great night again. I think that would have been like a classy thing to do. I understand maybe he just wants to move past it and not not acknowledge it, but, um, I don't know, like I don't really know, because I'm not upset with him being back, but I think it would have been nice to hear Some type of acknowledgement from him.
Speaker 1:Yeah, well, actually I take that back. That's the Grammys. He was banned from the Emmys, I think, not from the Grammys.
Speaker 2:Oh, really, oh wait, because Chris Rock was hosting the. Oh, maybe it was the Emmys, I forget.
Speaker 1:Either it was the Emmys or the Oscars. One of the two, oh, it was the Oscars. It was the Oscars. That's why, yeah, yeah.
Speaker 2:We won't see him at the Oscars, but we will see him at the Grammys.
Speaker 1:Okay, but you know what I mean. Everyone deserves a second chance, yeah. People got to realize we all do stupid stuff, gotta realize we all do stupid stuff. You know, maybe, maybe not on that magnitude, but I'll do stupid stuff. Yeah, you know, the intent was there. Um, what he was trying to do, it was the wrong way to do it, you know?
Speaker 2:yes, totally, and I feel like we we never, I'm sure, like we talked about before, when that actually happened, like I met him and jada, like we don't know all the things, all the little triggers that were happening that were like that was the final straw, you know, which is never a good, that's not a reason to ever hurt someone, but still a little crazy.
Speaker 1:You know, during during the the dedication, the Quincy Jones. I listened to a lot of Quincy Jones music cause he's made a lot of music over the years and he's got some great stuff. I was a little surprised that they didn't play some of his other songs, because Quincy did a lot of producing in the background. Yeah, oh yeah. Michael Jackson, a bunch of other artists and stuff.
Speaker 2:Yeah.
Speaker 1:I was really surprised that they didn't have other music for him. Me too, yeah.
Speaker 2:No, I definitely think they should have had even more medleys with, like, maybe some of those people coming out too.
Speaker 1:Mm-hmm, but, like I said, no one can take away from the Q, as they say yeah.
Speaker 2:And overall I thought it was pretty good. Like I know a lot of people felt like Billie Eilish kind of got snubbed. Oh, pretty good. Like I know a lot of people felt like billy eilish kind of got snubbed. I can't imagine if I was her too when you're so young and you like for for many years she's been winning so many things and almost like I felt like that the whole the song that she did for barbie, like I thought that was good. But it was almost getting like to me like okay, like I don't know, the accolades are like a little off the charts. So now I'm sure it probably feels a little confusing to like have a uh award show and not take home anything, but I mean that's just what it is. So I mean like hopefully these people know that they're, you know, so successful in different ways they don't need a grammy another one.
Speaker 1:Do you think that, um, as far as the people who won, do you think, uh, the right people won?
Speaker 2:yeah, I mean I love, love, love. I was really happy that, uh, sabrina carpenter, her album won, because I think that's actually a really good album, like I. When I listened to it I was like, oh, this is an album that is like different types of music, it's not just kind of like pop girl, um, and I thought she had the right people on it. I thought it was like that to me was good. Chapel roanan Heck. No, take her off. I'm ready for her to go away. She really bugs the heck out of me. So I think a million I would have chosen like anyone else, but her plush. She's been in the industry for like 11 years. I don't know, she just annoys the heck out of me. And I've also heard, yeah, for the most part, kendrick Not Like Us. I mean that was definitely a song of the year, I think for many people. I mean, if you're Drake too and you just watch people dancing to that, aren't you like in pain? That has to be the worst feeling.
Speaker 1:Yeah, especially when you know what the song is about. I know.
Speaker 2:And just watching like all of the or not a lot, but most of many important people in music, just watching them uh dance to like your downfall is just so weird yeah, I, like I said, I don't even know how it all started, to be honest with you.
Speaker 1:But um, I I know the beef is like because you know they're talking about that. That's got something to do with why, you know, little Lil Wayne got snubbed for the Super Bowl and all that, oh yeah yeah, how true it is, I don't know. But I don't know. I mean, sometimes these beefs can really get out of control.
Speaker 2:Yes, oh, and I saw, I love Cynthia Erivo and I know she was part of the Quincy thing too. I just think she is like so talented and I've seen her, I love her on the red carpet. She just seems like very gracious. I know people were laughing at some of her being ridiculous about like the wicked you know how she would act in the press interviews, but to me she seems like very poised and extremely nice to anyone that comes up to her. And I think she's like so unbelievably talented.
Speaker 1:I agree, I agree, I like I said, overall I think it was a great, great show. Yeah, me too. It was very cool. So, yeah, I like it. The one thing that was not so good, now I'm quite sure, no matter what your age, you know who Babyface is.
Speaker 2:Yes, oh, yes, yes.
Speaker 1:And there was this group of women I don't even know who they are, to be honest with you, because there's so many different people interviewing and they got Babyface to come over and do an interview.
Speaker 2:And there was somebody else walking by, and they were like, oh my God, oh my God, it was Chapel Rowan.
Speaker 1:It was Chapel Rowan, and you know Babyface got pissed off, gave him the mic and walked away, and it's like. You know you have to be smart about what you do. You know this guy is a multi Grammy winning artist, yes, and he's been doing this a long time, yeah. And if you know baby face and you're in the industry, okay, nine times out of 10, if you're really hitting, at one point you've even met him or work with him Okay. So to get him to stop and talk to you is a big deal To do. That to me.
Speaker 1:I thought it was very disrespectful. I mean, it got to the point they got so much backlash that they actually went on the air and apologized to him. I think I don't know. I mean, granted, we're small peas in a pod compared to them being on the red carpet, but even me new, not knowing everything, even I would not do that, whether it be baby face or whoever. If some big star gave me the opportunity to interview them, I'm not going to slap them in the face by oh, they're going to saw something. You don't do that. You know. That's right. I don't know. What do you think?
Speaker 2:Oh my gosh, this is is like I'm so into this. I just I talked about this with a friend. This was our whole lunch conversation and basically you know like obviously I'm in the crazy land of Los Angeles, so it happens a lot where you're like at a party talking to someone and then someone with either who's like more popular in the moment or someone with clout like comes in and what you don't do is exactly what that person did, which is like drop the person that you're talking to and immediately go slobber on the new person. And I feel like the tactful, classy way is to almost like call that new person over and be like please tell me that you and Babyface know each other. Or like, oh my gosh, I would love to see a collab and like there you have two artists which now we get to see like two amazing people talking, and like you know, you may have just sparked, like them talking, and then you can easily, if you're baby face, you've done enough interviews.
Speaker 2:Right now you kind of know, okay, it's your time to transition out and that's like the tactful way to do things. I just thought this, this shows like poor journalism, but I also have some a little bit of understanding where I think sometimes in these high pressure things, a lot of like the lights and the cameras and everything just gets to us and I feel like I would also chalk it up to just excitement and I feel like we've probably all unknowingly been at a party and like been a little bit like there's my friend and, like you know, made someone else feel a little bit bad. So I think that person like I don't think she should be dragged to hell.
Speaker 1:No-transcript they have to understand is there are other celebrities watching this, and there may be some celebrities that I'd be like. No, I remember. I remember what they did at the baby face. No, I ain't going to talk to them.
Speaker 2:Exactly, and there's that saying like, act like you've been there before, and I feel like that journalist did not act like she was there before you know, and so, if anything you could almost say like you know, you wrap it up with him and then you're like okay, out of the corner of my eye I see Chapel Roan. Have you heard of her, have you? You know?
Speaker 1:like almost transitioned them into one another.
Speaker 2:But I also like I can't say I would do this perfectly. I think I would flub a lot of things. So I understand, like making a mistake, but I think that's also so funny that now we get feedback in real time where she had to apologize like as she was doing the interviews.
Speaker 1:Yeah, yeah, she got very immediate feedback from that.
Speaker 2:Yeah, but I mean that's just how it is too. The industry is really tough and Chapel Rhone who she was like slobbering all over now, in a few years Chapel's going to be old news and you know, like a lot of the people that were like Babyface was once like the fresh and upcoming person that probably got a lot of the attention, and now it's sad that we just kind of like usher some people out and, you know, only pay attention to the select few.
Speaker 1:That's true. That's true. Just, she just had to understand that, though he may not be the front person right now, he's still got a lot of power behind the scenes.
Speaker 2:I know, I know and I feel like some of these things are just so much about like who's hot in that moment and then, like next year, they'll kind of not be hot anymore, you know that is so, so, true, so so true.
Speaker 1:Wow, what a great, great show.
Speaker 2:I wish our show was like nine hours long.
Speaker 1:You know it could be and you know the sad part about it is or funny, depending on how you look at it.
Speaker 2:This is a perfect example, that we will never, ever run out of stuff to talk about.
Speaker 2:Yeah, yeah in fact, it was hard for me to put my list together what to talk about, because it was so much stuff really, yeah and I love, and the thing about us like our show too is we welcome different viewpoints, like in a respectful way, like if people see things differently. If, like someone feels like taylor swift standing up is like the cutest thing they've ever seen, I want to hear it. You know, like I love. I love that kind of stuff because I feel like there is so much news going on that we're all trying to like synthesize in our brains what's happening.
Speaker 1:So I love that yeah, and this is like a side a side, a side thing here. But you know, when they were talking about taylor swift, they zoomed in on her leg and I guess she had like a piece in the T which was OK. That was kind of cool. But I don't know, that kind of was borderline creepy to me, like dude, why are you zooming in on her leg? Or is it just me?
Speaker 2:I think everyone's, especially with the Super Bowl.
Speaker 1:I mean, I know the team might be for her or for Taylor, but like of course everyone wants to be for her or for taylor, but like of course everyone wants to be for travis. So no, I think, I think she wants it. Oh my god, we didn't even talk about, uh, kanye's wife or girlfriend, bianca. You know what, you know what we, we should be over, but we got to talk about.
Speaker 2:We got. Yeah, we have to talk about that. Oh my god, she would not be able to fly on Spirit Airlines. I'm sorry, bianca, we got to cover it up. I mean, her body is out of control.
Speaker 1:Do me a favor, just so people know. Explain to them what we're talking about.
Speaker 2:Okay. So Kanye showed up with I don't know if it's his wife, I think it's his wife, bianca, and she was wearing a completely, completely see-through dress. It's almost like it's just a sheer dress, and then you can see everything, like at literally naked nipples, you know, buttocks, front lips, everything. Everything is happening. And so she started by being on the red carpet with her, just her tushy showing, and then everyone is like oh my god, oh my god. And then she turned around and she was literally like nude.
Speaker 2:And so a lot of people are like this is what kanye does to his people. They, you know, he makes them wear this kind of stuff and it's a little bit like I think he thinks it's artsy, but instead women wear this. You know, kim k was dressed a little bit like how kanye wanted it to be when they were in a relationship. But I'd like to think that bianca has agency, hopefully, over like what she's wearing. But I mean, to me everyone's body is beautiful, but her body really is like a work of art. I'm not grossed out by it, I think it's beautiful, but I just have to imagine sitting there the whole night. Aren't you a little cold? I don't know.
Speaker 1:I mean, you know what. To each his own in every relationship. I don't think that was the time or the place to do that Really. Yeah, to me personally. I would not want a wife, girlfriend or anyone who's with me to look like that.
Speaker 2:I know.
Speaker 1:To me that's disrespectful. I really am. I have nothing wrong with a woman dressing sexy or whatever. Up until that I would say, I don't care what a woman dressing sexy or whatever. And you know, up until that I would say I don't care what a woman wears, it's up to her. That's probably the exception to the rule. No, you're not going to be wearing that. I mean, you might as well just take everything off, Exactly.
Speaker 2:But I'm like okay, kanye, then you have to do that. Now you have to wear like a sheer, like if you're going to have her next to you, like you need to be naked. I think it would be amazing in a different story if someone like her showed up completely on their own and it's like her own journey. But it's the fact that it's attached to him too. I think sometimes people are like you know, when Kim was dating him or married to him, I feel like her style was totally like what he wanted it to be, and so oh yeah, and you know the thing is, you could be a beautiful woman without showing everything.
Speaker 2:You don't have to do that. Yeah, and I think some people are going to say that he did that because he wants attention, you know, yeah, yeah, yep, but I mean like kudos to her, for if you're gonna do it, she pulled it off in terms of how it looked and like I actually don't think I don't know if it's her figure, what happened, but to me, like when she was actually up there on her, I actually don't think I don't know if it's her figure, what happened, but to me, like when she was actually up there on her own, I don't think she looked like not classy at all. I actually thought she looked like a beautiful, like a model painting or you know something that someone would draw or something. So when I actually saw her, I didn't think it looked like gross, I thought she looked very pretty and beautiful. So, yeah, and like, like I said.
Speaker 1:I remember he came to one awards event and he had a mask on and Kanye likes to take. Oh, I remember that.
Speaker 2:Yeah, with the pantyhose and stuff. I remember that's how Kim K was dressing too, with the ridiculous spandex over her face. It's so stupid.
Speaker 1:Well, he accomplished what he wanted. He wanted to get some attention, so he got that.
Speaker 2:Honestly, I like her outfit better than what Chapel Rhone wore. With the big that she almost looked like an organized group. That I don't like as a Jewish person. But she was wearing a big wizard hat. She looked ridiculous and I hate that makeup. I know lots of people like it and I may get some flack. But she looked ridiculous and I hate that makeup. I know lots of people like it and I may get some flack but to me I'll take a naked person over that any day.
Speaker 1:I hear you on that, Kudos, I guess. To Kanye for pulling it off, I guess, yeah, literally pulling it off.
Speaker 2:Yeah, pulling it all off.
Speaker 1:Oh wow, that was good. That was a good way to end it Yay Well. Well, meryl, what do you have coming up?
Speaker 2:Oh my gosh, if anyone is Watching on Wednesday. I'm in San Diego Wednesday night Doing a comedy show in Ocean Beach, and then I have shows All around Los Angeles.
Speaker 1:Oh, good, good Name some of the places that you're going to be at.
Speaker 2:I will be at a place called the Glendale Room, which is in Glendale, which is like right next to Pasadena in Los Angeles. I will be at Flappers in Burbank where Jay Leno performs a lot, which is super cool, and I think that's it for now. Yeah, that's it for February. Oh, santa Barbara, santa Barbara too. I'm at a really cool venue in Santa Barbara called the Red Piano, which is like a piano bar.
Speaker 1:Nice, nice. Yeah, you definitely got a full schedule.
Speaker 2:And I will not be dressing like Bianca. I'm so sorry everyone. I will not be dressing like Taylor Swift dancing.
Speaker 1:Well, meryl, it was definitely a pleasure, you too, and for everyone, don't forget to Watch us on ElrodTVnetworkcom, as well as our New podcast that we have on All major podcast Channels, which is Apple let's see Apple, iheartradio, spotify and several others. So we're on a lot of All the major ones, so definitely make sure that you listen to us, subscribe to us and let everybody know who we are.
Speaker 2:Yay.
Speaker 1:I am Lawrence Elrod.
Speaker 2:And I am Meryl Clemo.
Speaker 1:Have a great day, everyone Bye. Have a great day, everyone bye.
