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Thirsty Topics: Missing Tourists, Airport Nudity, and Other Thirsty Conversation Starters for 3/12/25
Two friends reconnect over the airwaves as Lawrence shares exciting news about his cousin, Ashley Lauren Elrod, landing a role on the CBS show "FBI." Their celebration quickly shifts to a more sobering discussion about a 20-year-old college student who vanished while on spring break in the Dominican Republic, prompting a candid conversation about travel safety and the importance of looking out for friends in unfamiliar surroundings.
The duo doesn't shy away from controversial topics, examining a shocking incident at a high school track meet where an athlete deliberately struck another with a baton, causing a concussion. Their dismay deepens when they learn the race continued despite the assault, raising questions about sportsmanship, accountability, and the origins of such disturbing behavior in young people.
Listeners will find themselves nodding along as Lawrence and Meryl dissect the bizarre story of a naked woman delaying a Southwest Airlines flight. Rather than simply mining the incident for humor, they thoughtfully examine it through the lens of mental health while acknowledging the extraordinary challenges facing modern flight attendants who must serve as impromptu security personnel, psychologists, and crisis managers.
The conversation lightens as they debate the merits of Daylight Savings Time (they're both fans of the extra evening daylight) before diving into relationship boundaries when a boyfriend takes his girlfriend's best friend shopping without permission. The episode wraps with an exploration of "sleep maxing" trends and the viral "We Listen and Don't Judge" relationship challenge, complete with Lawrence's impressive revelation about laying out his clothes the night before—a habit that earns him Meryl's admiration.
Whether you're looking for thoughtful analysis of current events, relationship insights, or simply the warm company of two friends sharing perspectives, this episode delivers it all with authenticity and humor. Tell your friends about Thirsty Topics so these engaging conversations can reach even more listeners!
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Hello everyone, this is Lawrence Elrod with Thirsty Topics.
Speaker 2:And I am Meryl Clemo, also with Thirsty Topics.
Speaker 1:Meryl, how are you doing today?
Speaker 2:Oh my gosh, I am good, my friend. I just got back yesterday from Las Vegas where I won a total of $6.
Speaker 1:I don't mean to brag on here, but hey, anything other than zero is a win, right?
Speaker 2:Exactly. I think we actually probably lost about $ 500 in food and just taxi cabs, but overall it was very fun. I stayed at Mandalay Bay and we had a really good time.
Speaker 1:Nice, nice. Mine was just the regular day-to-day stuff here, but it's actually pretty warm now. It was in the 50s and actually we have 70s coming, I think, this Friday. Ooh nice, so finally getting warm weather, and I'm enjoying that, to be honest.
Speaker 2:Oh, I love that. It's so nice when it starts to feel like that, when you get a little spring in your step.
Speaker 1:Oh, absolutely, absolutely.
Speaker 2:We had another tiny earthquake here yesterday, but it was so mild and once again I was just sitting on the couch and it's like you just feel what's happening and you're like, oh interesting, okay I don't know, does it seem like there's been a lot more earthquakes now? Yeah, it always seems like that happens, where there'll be like a few close and then nothing will happen for a month but, or a couple months but.
Speaker 1:Must have been so small that they didn't even report on it.
Speaker 2:I know, yep, it was teeny tiny.
Speaker 1:Well, that's a good thing.
Speaker 2:It is a good thing.
Speaker 1:Well, we're going to start off on a great note. This wonderful woman, her name is Ashley Lauren Elrod. She was actually interviewed on Thirsty Conversations, which is on LRodTVNetworkcom, and she is going to be on a CBS show called FBI.
Speaker 2:Cool. Okay, now I have to ask the last name is the same? Is this a cousin?
Speaker 1:Yes, Full disclosure. She's my cousin.
Speaker 2:Yay, oh my gosh, that's amazing.
Speaker 1:So, yeah, I'm looking forward to that. Obviously, depending on where you're at, the times may vary, but she's going to be on Tuesday, march 18th.
Speaker 2:Okay, okay. Well, now tell us a little bit about her. Is she like an actress, full-time, or is she?
Speaker 1:she's an actress, she's also a producer director, um, and she has a company called um visionary woman, uh, which is a production company. So, um, you know, she actually has a few projects that she's working on for her company, and what's really really nice about her is she's very down to earth. She's been in the industry a long time, both in front and behind the camera, so she has a lot of experience.
Speaker 2:Oh my gosh Good. And do you know anything about her storyline? Yet we can't tell anyone.
Speaker 1:You know what she didn't. Let us know what the storyline is, yeah, which I can understand because there's probably a lot of legality about you know, we'll sue your family and everything if you say yeah, it's like, just so you know.
Speaker 2:This happens during the episode and it ends up this way yeah, I can imagine.
Speaker 1:But yeah, I definitely wanted to start everything off on a very, very positive note.
Speaker 2:That is so cool. Well, congrats to her, and we'll have to watch. I have not seen that show.
Speaker 1:Yes, that definitely gives me a reason to watch it too, so I know it sounds pretty good.
Speaker 2:I feel like, especially now, all of those like Secret Service, fbi, white House, like all those shows are extra cool, like I'm extra invested during this time.
Speaker 1:Absolutely so. Yeah, when it gets closer to it, I'll mention it again, but I at least wanted to start off sharing the good news.
Speaker 2:Yeah, when it's out, I will definitely watch it and we'll recap it. That's so cool.
Speaker 1:Yeah it's actually kind of nice to have someone you know on a major network that was on the show.
Speaker 2:I know, now we also have to hear from her. See, you guys are already close, but it's going to be funny hearing from her who in her life like randomly, reaches out, like hey girl, I just saw you on this, or you know, because I that definitely happens a lot, even like on a small scale. If I post a comedy flyer or something people will be like immediately I'll get a dm from someone like hello, I'm like go away. So I could just imagine when you're on like a big show, people are probably up your booty. Well, that's so cool. Well sounds like, uh, we'll definitely be watching a new show and I look forward to that. I'm getting ready for my. My next topic. I'm going to start out. I'm not agree. We're going to mine will be the most bummer one first and then it will just get happier and happier.
Speaker 2:But, um, I don't know if you've heard of there's a college student that's currently missing At this time.
Speaker 2:When I last checked, she's still missing.
Speaker 2:She's a college student from Pittsburgh, university of Pittsburgh student, and she disappeared last week on spring break in the Dominican Republic, sudiksha Sunaki, a 20-year-old United States resident.
Speaker 2:She was last seen on surveillance camera with seven other people entering the beach at her hotel at 4.15 am and then the story gets a little bit hazy where, like, some of her friends may have left her and then there was one guy that I think she was out with, and then the guy said that they were kind of in the waves like getting tossing and turning, and then he went out to the beach because he wasn't feeling well and then he slept on the sand and then when he woke up she was gone and then at 4 pm that day they called the police and they've been looking for her ever since, on like the air and the sea. They've been looking everywhere. Um, I mean, don't you? You feel like this happens every couple of years, where there's like a very shady story about and we don't know whether it's like foul play or the locals or something that's just an accident. You know there's alcohol involved with the ocean and so it's very scary. I can just imagine her parents are not feeling very good.
Speaker 1:Oh yeah, I mean, actually there's a few things that played here not feeling very good. Oh yeah, I mean, actually there's a few things that played here. One to me, you really have to be careful who you call friends that you have. Just someone calls you a friend doesn't mean they're your friend. And then, plus too, you know it's a shame, but you know, every so often you hear about these stories and you kind of hope that there's no foul play involved, there's no human trafficking involved. Yes, because they're in a different country.
Speaker 2:Yeah.
Speaker 1:And you know, sometimes you know youngsters when they go out, especially like spring break or whatever, they'll go to these places for the very first time and they might not be well aware of you know, looking around, paying attention to your surroundings, pay attention to people you call yourself hanging with. So you just hope it gets better. But, man, these stories keep coming up. It's like every year, every two years, you know.
Speaker 2:I know, remember the natalie holloway thing which was like it got like so uh, twisted, and then if you're this guy, that was if you're innocent, and you're this guy, that was like, seen last alone with her at 4 am, that doesn't look great for you. If you're in the ocean and then all of a sudden you wake up and she's gone, like if it really was, that she unfortunately may have drowned or something, but if not, like I would think that a couple eyes would be on him, you know.
Speaker 2:So I guess oh yeah, or you know, so I guess yeah. Or it's just like a young woman. She was only 20 by herself. Um, it said she was with five other women and two men and they were last seen drinking in the hotel lobby around 3 am and then they went to the ocean at 4 am and it's just one of those things that I feel like we've all done it, like I've definitely did stupid things in my own college spring break, but it's like as a parent, you just this is your worst nightmare and you just hope that people know better, or just you know, I don't know.
Speaker 1:Just really a nightmare, oh yeah, and then also too you know, if you're gonna be with a bunch of people and you're drinking, someone has to be the person who's, you know, equivalent to an uh to a designated driver. In other words, they drink very little to nothing because they're watching everyone else in the group. The whole group can't be drunk because something can happen and no one honestly would know. Someone has to be responsible.
Speaker 2:I think the guys that they met, they met them at the resort, which also is like these aren't her friends from college that she traveled with. Those are random resort guys. It's like you don't her friends from college that she traveled with. You know those are random resort guys. So it's like you don't know if they have ulterior motives or if they are just kind of stupid drunk boys. That just happened. They really have nothing going on with this other than just kind of being there. But they said the young man with her have told police multiple versions of what happened so far.
Speaker 1:That's not a good sign.
Speaker 2:I know, so we'll keep an eye out, but that's definitely something that's developing yeah, we'll definitely pray for her.
Speaker 1:And then, um, hopefully the news is positive.
Speaker 2:Yeah, quality is that every day that goes by that you don't hear from her, um, outcome is not going to be good I know the good thing, not in this case, but like I feel like if any generation has hope for being with their friends and staying with them, I feel like Gen Z is actually really responsible for the most part in that way. You know, I know we've talked a few times about people drinking less and less and like they still party, but I feel like a lot of the young people are very reachable in terms of saying like hey, this happens, so you have to keep an eye out for your friends. And it just seems like nowadays, because we hear these stories, people are a little bit more hyper, vigilant and like can actually, you know, know how how responsible they have to be, even when they're having fun.
Speaker 1:that's true that's true, so let's just hope that. You know someone finds it within the next couple of days, you know.
Speaker 2:Yeah, I think back to like I went to Jamaica for my spring break and I just think back to like I was walking by my oh, my mom's not listening to this, but it's like I think back to just walking by myself and it's like my friends didn't really even leave me. But it's kind of like everyone goes on their own journey and you know, some friend was probably hooking up with some person and then the next thing you know, you're like walking in Jamaica alone.
Speaker 2:It's just you're. You're lucky that you land safe when you're doing it. I don't think people recognize how dangerous it can be like really anywhere, but especially when you're by yourself in a different country. Oh yeah, I mean, when you get older you think back to some of the things you did. I was like why am I in Jamaica covered in foam, like walking down a road by myself?
Speaker 1:I feel like people probably drove past me and were like, oh God, whatever's happening, just drive faster. Well, talking about ridiculous, and I don't know if this is a sign of that time, but there was a high school running meet, you know where they had teams. So you know, you run and then you pass a baton, you know, and there were several teams and, for whatever reason, this high school this is high school now, so they're kids, they're girls she took her baton as she was running and hit the other girl in the head with it, and you know, of course, the girl dropped her baton and she fell down and the crazy thing about it was they kept going with the race, they didn't stop.
Speaker 2:No, so everyone else kept going. Oh yeah.
Speaker 1:And you know the mom, you know she's watching in the stands, so she's running out there to the field. She's horrified, and the amazing thing is that one they should have stopped that race right then and there because I'm quite sure there was officials that saw that, yeah, or the coaches saw that. That's the one issue the girl was out for a week because she suffered a concussion. Of course, because you know those batons are metal. Yeah, I'm not sure, but they're metal. So she had a concussion for about a week. So hopefully I think she may be going back to school tomorrow, because they interviewed her and the coach called, and the coach of the opposite team where the girl was on, and then also the girl's father called and apologized to her mom and to the girl for what her daughter did. But the one thing that surprises me is that the girl who did it didn't apologize.
Speaker 2:Really.
Speaker 1:Because they said that. You know, they acknowledged that her father called to apologize and there was a statement from the school. The coach called, talked to him, apologized, but they didn't get an apology from the girl.
Speaker 2:And does this sound like it was purposeful?
Speaker 1:Oh no, it was definitely purposeful. It was purposeful, Okay, so there's no saying, she hit her like two or three times. I mean no, that was no accident.
Speaker 2:It's one of those stupid like three-second things that people do sometimes where you don't know that that can like alter someone's life and alter your own life and alter their life. You know, like when you see like a friend pushing someone off a cliff into the ocean and they're not ready yet or something, and then that friend gets paralyzed and it's like you didn't really you didn't think for those three seconds. Like this is one of those things where, whether she was just being like a terrible person or they had some beef or something, it's like I don't even think she thought of the outcome that could happen not only to this other girl but to herself, like she's probably, you know, going to get in really big trouble and that's that's crazy.
Speaker 1:It's crazy and you know, being that she's a high school student, I could be wrong, but for some reason she saw this anger somewhere yeah, that's true you know where that anger she saw. I don't know and I don't want to make any accusations, but obviously she either saw this someplace or she has some serious issues that she needs to talk to someone about yes that's not normal for a high school kid to do no, not at all, especially with, like, someone that should be your teammate.
Speaker 2:I don't know if they have any outstanding on the opposite team, oh, on the opposite team. Okay, but it's like even that, even if you're a poor sport and you're like super competitive, that's not any reason to hurt someone. And don't you think like in some sports sometimes they'll take cheap shots at the other players? You know, like football or baseball or something like they'll do, or especially basketball? They'll just do like a little extra thing.
Speaker 1:But it's like you can't really do that when you're running with a huge metal wand I mean you know, in some places you know you'll be charged with assault, because that's the assault with a deadly weapon. If you think I think she should, you know I think she should. I mean it was amazing to see and you know, after the girl fell down, I think get hit in the head. The girl hit her, just kept running and I'm like wow no way I feel like she needs to be like suspended.
Speaker 2:I don't know someone like that. That's such like scary but bratty behavior and like before she goes out into the workforce or anything.
Speaker 1:I think she needs to learn some lessons, and whether that's like juvie or something, I don't know yeah I mean and there are going to be some people that says, well, she's a little girl, you know, give her a little bit of slack or whatever. But here's the only problem, and I get it. I truly do understand that that argument but there's something to be said is suffer pain now instead of later yeah yeah, understand the seriousness of what she did. The next time she does something, hopefully it doesn't happen, but if she takes it to the next level, guess what?
Speaker 2:her parents can't protect her right, yep, and, and she needs to learn. Like right now. That's not okay, because she's lucky that, like the other teammates, didn't turn and start beating her.
Speaker 1:You know, like that I mean, it could have been a brawl, if you think about it yeah, it could have been.
Speaker 2:All of a sudden, all you have these teenagers like with wands and everything, and yeah, that's really nuts I have. I didn't. I saw that article but I didn't watch it because otherwise I'll get too mad and then I'll start to get like I don't know. I feel like I err sometimes on punishment even more than like I don't know. Not that I don't have empathy for this person, but it's like if you hit someone on the head with a metal wand, you, you know what's going to happen, and if not, then you should find out.
Speaker 1:Yeah, I mean one time. You can argue back and forth, but not two or three times. That was 100% intentional.
Speaker 2:Yeah, yeah, and even like opposing teams, because I know lots of people have rivalries or it's like this girl talks a lot of smack to me when I'm you know whatever. I know that people are known for that, but then show her by beating her.
Speaker 1:You know, not physically beating her, but like by race beating her. Oh, exactly, exactly. So we'll definitely be watching that story, cause I'm kind of curious to see what happens to the other girl.
Speaker 2:Yeah, that's reason number 800 that I don't do organized sports. I have no trouble hurting myself without someone doing that with me. That's so crazy. Well, that sounds like she needs to go. That girl needs to go on a flight with the woman from my next story which I want them to be stuck on a very small plane together. And I also just want to say that this story was not me. I did just fly Southwest to Las Vegas on a short to say that this story was not me. I did just fly southwest to Las Vegas on a short flight, but the story was not me. So thank you so much.
Speaker 2:A naked woman on a southwest flight forces plane to return to gate in Houston. Passengers on a southwest flight just witnessed a very disturbing incident when a naked woman caused a delay to their flight this week. So the flight was scheduled to take off at 2.55 pm but then had to go back to the gate, which is annoying. So a woman stood naked and went towards the front of the cabin, caused a scene for about 25 minutes and then turned around and stripped all of her clothes off. She obviously had to like she had some mental issues. You know this is. It's sad because it's like this person. There's a lot of funny things about it and, of course, a lot of jokes about like where is she keeping her storage?
Speaker 1:or her, you know her.
Speaker 2:IDs or anything like that. But then, when you watch the video, this seems like someone who was not all there, how she got on the flight and like made it to be sitting on the actual flight. I don't know, because that's clearly someone that's under duress and under a lot of stress, but then I guess they took her off the plane, they made the plane go back to the original city and then they took her to a mental hospital, which is like you know. Of course, as humans, it's ridiculous to see someone strip themselves naked and there's like silly aspects of it. But it's just yet another mental illness thing that just either seems to be on the rise or we're just seeing more of it, but I don't know. It seems like back in the day people weren't just like going literally buck naked on flights.
Speaker 1:Well, the good thing was, the plane was still on the ground.
Speaker 2:Yeah, yeah, yeah, exactly, and it was like. I think it was like circling for 25 minutes. Now I would be. I don't know how I'd feel about this, because I already have flight anxiety and I'm always worried about Big other things happening. So I haven't yet put this on my card About naked people. So now I'm adding another list Of things to be terrified about.
Speaker 1:Yeah, my thing is okay. Who's going to grab her and put a coat on her, or something?
Speaker 2:I know Well that's. The other thing is that in the videos and I understand this, I understand this when most of the people you see everyone filming from their phone and it takes a really long time for someone to get her, and it's also you don't know. You don't know if she has a knife somewhere or you don't know if, like, what's going to happen or if this is part of like a play. You know, like, I think in this day and age, we, we know what I I don't blame people for not stepping up, but that also has to be crazy. If you're a flight attendant and that's just what you're trying to get, people like hot tea service, and then, all of a sudden, now you have to like, wrangle a naked woman.
Speaker 1:Yeah, I mean, you know it's like. It's like flight attendants now have to deal with so much.
Speaker 2:Yeah, it's like their safety, airline safety but they're also like babysitters, psychologists, accountants, like waitresses, like now youresses, now police, basically.
Speaker 1:Oh yeah, and I can just imagine the shock of everybody, Like what the hell?
Speaker 2:Right and I also feel like flying is such a right now. I mean, when I just flew it didn't feel serious or as scary as it did when I flew the day after the DC thing, but it felt a little bit back to normal. But already most people are a little bit anxious, tensions are higher than usual. So it's like when something like this happens, everyone is just like, oh god, not another thing.
Speaker 2:Yeah, and it probably kind of freaked people out when she was banging on the cockpit door, though, yeah, and I was thinking about this too, like I guess there's no way to really tell if anyone is mentally like healthy enough to get on it. Like clearly, if someone's having a mental emergency, they're not going to let them on the flight.
Speaker 1:But I wonder I wonder, leading up to this, if there was like visible signs at the airport terminal checking in yeah, you kind of wonder, but I do believe that there's protocols in place, which is probably why they reacted so fast once she did start yeah pull off her clothes and banging on the door. So you know there's protocols in place for the what ifs. Because it seems like after um, after the pandemic, uh, most people kind of went crazy so they had to put that's true.
Speaker 2:That's true. Remember there was like I forget what it even was, but one person got drug out by his legs. Remember the people? They were dragging people on plates.
Speaker 1:Oh, remember the one person they literally duct taped to his seat, that's right and it's like come on the whole time I'm on a plane.
Speaker 2:I'm so anxious that I would. I would dare not like even take like my jacket off or I don't know.
Speaker 1:I'm just sitting there like, please, nothing happened yeah, so uh, like I said, I don't know. I think these flights and should get more, more pay cuz they do a lot more than just being a flight attendant so much.
Speaker 2:Also, my hot flying tip is that, especially if people are going to go to Vegas, I flew on Thursday night and I came back Saturday night and both flights were half empty and we got the rows to ourselves. If you're not a big party, we still had Thursday night and Friday night in Vegas. So if you're not, if you're okay with like not being there on a Saturday night, the Vegas airport was completely. It took us like five minutes to get through. You know usually everyone's at the Vegas airport and you're hot and sweaty and hungover. This one we got through in like four minutes and we had row. We each had a row to ourselves. So's just a go home on saturday night.
Speaker 1:Yeah now you know. What's good, too is if you take real early flights. Um, yeah, because it's never packed on the early flight no and they they're. At that time, you're less likely to have delays that's true.
Speaker 2:the only thing with that for me is I don't know if you have this, but like I, the night before I have those panic dreams where I've like missed my flight. You know, I wake up and I'm always like and it's 1am and then I'm like, okay, like I keep waking up every 40 minutes, so I'm always tired, but yes.
Speaker 2:I don't really sleep that well just because I want to make sure I'm not late getting to the airport and stuff like that. Yeah, yeah, yeah, I'll dream about missing my flight and then I'll wake up and it's 1230. And then the last thing on this story, really quick, is that people were, I guess, annoyed that she wasn't charged for criminal offenses. But for me, like this seems like a mental health situation and like I don't. I don't think someone's just randomly getting up and getting naked for the fun of it or like to mess with people. I think this seems like a if they, if they check it out, and it is a mental health situation. Like I don't think this person should be charged criminally. Do you think that too?
Speaker 1:yeah, I think that's a good point and I do, like I said, it's hard to say because there's different ways of looking at everything you know.
Speaker 2:Yeah, totally, yep, and it's also just yeah, yeah, it's another thing about like kind of our mental health crisis that's happening and just it's everything at once. Mental health flying, it's all.
Speaker 1:Yeah, that's mental health flying, it's all, it's a. Yeah, that's true. I mean, there is no magic way, like you said before, of knowing if a person is going to have an episode or not until it actually happens. Yeah, you know, you just have to pray to god that they don't do anything. Crazy like, exactly like the one person who, uh, decided to open the door.
Speaker 2:Remember that. Oh my gosh yeah.
Speaker 1:While the plane was in the air.
Speaker 2:Yeah, who are these people? It's like it really is baffling. And then you, you do have to like there has to be something where you can't just go back into society in like four days, you have to. I don't know. That's a really a big deal. I also just think too, if that was my loved one, like the, the woman that was like naked, and that is sad, if that person does have like schizophrenia or something, and now you're watching like your loved one go mental on a flight, like be naked, like that has to be not fun for people, but um, but still, I understand we're humans and there's a funny element to it so we could see all sides that is true.
Speaker 1:That is true. Hopefully I don't have any naked people on my plane next time.
Speaker 2:We're also in America we're. So I just saw, too that like there's a lot of like French women protest stuff and they just have like their shirts completely off and their boobies are there, and it's like I think in America, naked is like so funny because we're like we have to like cover up, I think more than a lot of other countries. So anytime this happens, it's like even more, you know, shocking.
Speaker 1:That is so true Because if it happened in another country, they probably won't look at it.
Speaker 2:Obviously they still gonna, you know, deal with the woman, because she's having an episode, but you're right, it probably won't be as like oh my god, as it would here. Right, because they're like, oh, we could go to the ocean and see naked bodies, like 24-7 or you know, it's not as much like a shocking thing. We're here, we're like little robots, and then when we see that it's like, ah, Well, talk about interesting stories.
Speaker 1:Do you remember who Casey Anderson is, casey?
Speaker 2:Anthony Anthony. I'm sorry, casey Anthony Anthony, I'm sorry. Yep, I do, I do. How could I forget?
Speaker 1:Yeah, well, she has a new career now.
Speaker 2:No way, uh-oh.
Speaker 1:Well, I guess now she's a social media legal expert now.
Speaker 2:Huh, okay, I thought you were going to say influencer, but legal expert is a little more serious, I guess.
Speaker 1:She's trying to be an influencer, but a lot of people are really up in arms because of what she did.
Speaker 2:Yeah.
Speaker 1:People are like how in the heck could she even think about doing this? Some people were like, hey, you know, let her move on with her life. I want to find out from you, Merle, what do you think about when a person tries to rewrite who they are, rediscover their personality, because obviously they're trying to shed who they were in the past?
Speaker 2:Yeah, well, I think sometimes people that have been in the system, I feel like may have a good perspective of it so that in a in one way, like someone may be able you know how they hire like former hackers for fbi agents and like they'll they'll have criminals that end up wanting to do good and then they'll be able to kind of do what they do but help the good forces. I I do believe in that, where I'm like okay, I do believe in second chances, but I feel I feel like Casey Anthony's thing was so weird and so like not great that I don't think anyone needs her as their legal advocate. I feel like if you're looking for a legal advocate, it seems like there's probably dozens, if not hundreds, of like other choices from people that might be a little bit more authentic and like even just better at at that. So I guess that's my answer is usually I'm open to people like revamping their, you know, having a rebrand moment or trying to find a second life or take some more chances, but in this case, not not so much.
Speaker 2:Um, I know she's it said she's been in the legal field since 2011, since when she was tried for murder. So it's like, on one hand, I feel like she knows the justice system really well, but on the other hand, I wouldn't want herself to. I wouldn't want her to be advocating for me. I don't think.
Speaker 1:Yeah, it's almost like a professional burglar who just got out of jail and he wants to start a business as um, a security expert for your home, yeah now, on the one hand, yeah, he knows a lot about that, but is that somebody I really want around my house, you know?
Speaker 2:right and I could see if it was someone too like casey anthony did not give great public image. You know we all she was not very liked, she's still not very liked and like I could also see if it was someone that had like a little bit better of a reputation, that made a mistake. But you could clearly see they were sorry. But it's like every time we've seen her she's been defensive or like aloof and so I don't know you hit a great point, though, meryl.
Speaker 1:A lot, a lot of people have a big problem with it, because in a lot of people's mind, she showed no remorse, and that's what people are really angry about. You know what I mean?
Speaker 2:Yeah, yeah, we would almost have to see that she's a completely different person and that wasn't leaving her person. You know her toddler alone and doing all these things, and so I don't know Would you take legal advice from her. No, definitely not. I would hear what she did and do the opposite. I wouldn't. I'm sure there might be some people, but I worry that I'm not sure that she would be doing it for the right reasons. Like what if she tried to help? So like what if she was helping the next casey anthony?
Speaker 1:you know, like get get freed from something really bad that they did you know, that's actually a good point, that's actually a really good point, yeah, so what do you think?
Speaker 2:you think this is going to last, or think this is pretty much um I think it might be a money grab or just a way for her to kind of try. I think maybe she'll have a few people on her payroll and then after that, I think it's going to just kind of float away and then maybe we'll see her selling toothpaste or she'll be an influencer maybe.
Speaker 1:That's true, that is very, very true.
Speaker 2:What if her and Gypsy Rose?
Speaker 1:team up for, like their very own law firm or something that would be one hell of a law firm.
Speaker 2:Yeah, I guess we'd have to see, but it would. I'd have to see a whole different version of casey anthony, because she definitely just sticks out in my mind I think for a lot of people too that she just the lack of remorse and just the excuses and defensiveness. Um, and I know she said she's a proponent for the lgbtq community, so I don't know, it'll be interesting, but I do believe that people could reinvent themselves. But time will tell, I think that's 100% true.
Speaker 1:Time will definitely tell.
Speaker 2:What about you? Would you take any advice from her?
Speaker 1:I may do like you and listen to the advice and probably do the opposite.
Speaker 2:I think I honestly would probably hire Gypsy Rose more.
Speaker 1:I could see that. I could definitely see that.
Speaker 2:You know this is off topic, but I think if my boyfriend ever got in trouble, this is very sad and doesn't bode well for me, but I feel like OJ Simpson would be the first person he'd call. I had to tell him at a point to like not have a million OJ Simpson paraphernalia in the house. I'm like we can't have a picture of, like, the Bronco driving down the highway. But anyway, um, okay, my next one, oh, okay.
Speaker 2:So daylight savings time is here and many people have many different thoughts on it. Um, the last I heard it was so funny because it was like trump may do away with daylight savings, he may not and all this kind of stuff, and someone commented like why is he giving daylight savings more thought than every other thing on his agenda? So Daylight Savings you know there's a lot of studies that say that during this time people probably noticed too I'm a little off today, a little tired. Like you know. It reduces productivity. We have higher healthcare costs altogether because of just the fatigue.
Speaker 2:There's a lot of accidents today that happened today, a lot of workplace accidents, just because people are running on too little sleep and this shakes up our circadian rhythm and just makes a lot of people feel tired and just kind of out of sorts for today. Now, for me, like I like this one because I like getting an extra morning daylight and I love when it starts to get lighter or I love when it stays lighter for longer. Just the fact that it's like 7 pm right now when we're recording and it's not sunset yet, like it just makes me feel like a little kid. So for this Daylight Savings Time, I feel like it's worth it because we're kind of just gaining that hour. But I think a lot of people don't feel that way.
Speaker 1:So I wanted to get your thoughts on it. You know what I like this time better, because you know it was 7 o'clock and it was still light outside. I'm like, oh, I love it.
Speaker 2:Yeah, because you still feel like you could go out and like frolic outside.
Speaker 1:Exactly, and I know a lot of people were saying well, you know there's a problem. I think the real problem because I did read the article is that it's the change that throws people off.
Speaker 2:Yeah, yeah, and we should just keep it the same, like if we keep it now, if we're locked in now, it will be perfect, I think.
Speaker 1:Yes, I think it should be locked in, but I prefer to have the longer daylight Me too, Worst thing is because I think it's the shortest daylight I want. I want to say I don't know how it is in california, but I know in the midwest it's like around december middle where you go to work in the morning it's dark.
Speaker 2:Yeah, it's dark yes, and it's the same thing. It's like it's I like to wake up really early, and it's so weird to wake up when it's 6am and it's not even close to getting light out and I'm like, come on, give me something. I at least need to know that something is happening. Same thing when it's cold and dark at like 5pm, no way, or 4.
Speaker 1:There's been times this winter that I've sincerely been like I think I'm going to go to bed and I look and it's like 5.15pm yep, but you know, the thing that really surprised me, um, actually it shocked me was the amount of suicides that go up, um, you know, during the, you know the, the time shifts. That's surprising really, because I guess, from what they say, uh, in the articles, is that, um, a lot people suffer from depression and the changing of the time actually affects it in a negative way.
Speaker 2:Wow See, that's weird. I definitely get what they mean around depression around the holidays or in the middle of the winter, but to me this almost seems like, okay, we know summer's coming or spring, but I don't know. Maybe there's something to it about just our clocks being like I don't like this next season coming.
Speaker 1:I mean, unless it's probably when it gets ready to fall back and you're losing an hour. Yeah, that may be.
Speaker 2:Me too. Me too, because you know it's starting. It's like we go into hibernation mode almost, but this seems like I don't know, but I mode almost, but this seems like I don't know. But I also think there should be more awareness of just people taking care of themselves. Like I am lucky in the way that it doesn't really affect me that badly because I work remotely and from home, and so, like I have right now, it feels like we're caught up on the time, like I don't do you feel it physically?
Speaker 1:It really doesn't affect me much, except that, you know, I noticed the longer daylights and I do feel much better. Now, the one thing and again this is just my take on this is that it could be when we have the time fall back, Because when the time goes back now, you're still getting into the holiday season.
Speaker 2:Yeah.
Speaker 1:And you know, if you're a person that's going through depression, you feel lonely or whatever. The major holidays could be really, really tough.
Speaker 2:You know absolutely.
Speaker 1:Absolutely. I can see that there Because, again, if you're already going through depression, times changing, you think, oh my God, no, you know, thanksgiving is around the corner, christmas is around the corner. I don't have any family, I don't have any friends, I don't have this, and that I can see that being very, very tough for someone.
Speaker 2:Yep, absolutely, me too, and yeah, I guess. And also if you're working a job where, like these, time changes and you're just so tired and it's like how's my body going to adjust to it? And I think, if you're someone that, like, depends on a lot of caffeine or a lot of things to just keep you, stimulated all day, then I think a time change can really mess you up.
Speaker 1:You know, that's true, that's true. I mean, I hope they go through with it because they do need to keep it solid, keep it one instead of shifting back.
Speaker 2:I think it's kind of stupid personally, but you know yeah, I think I wonder it'd be interesting to see a study of like men versus women handling daylight savings time, because there'd be something that I would feel like women might handle it a little bit better, because we're used to like having time throughout the month where we're tired, we're crabby, but we're used to this happening every 20-something days. So it'd be interesting to see how the different genders handle it.
Speaker 1:That's actually true. It'd be kind of nice to know.
Speaker 2:Exactly Because I feel like during this time, I wish our society also had daylight savings. You could go nap somewhere, or you could go see a movie for free, I don't know. They should do more restful things.
Speaker 1:Absolutely, absolutely, talk about interesting. I don't know, you may love this one, but I'd love to get your take on it. There was this video that went around and basically it was this woman who happened to go to the store and ran into her boyfriend and he took her best friend to the store. And you know picking her up, you know, to take her back home. She kind of, you know, was very pissed off, to pull it very mildly, and I'm just kind of curious, because it was interesting to see what people were saying online.
Speaker 1:Is it okay for a boyfriend to take his girlfriend's best friend to the store without asking his girlfriend first?
Speaker 2:I'd let. The only way ever is, if it the store is a jewelry store, they're picking out a diamond ring for me. No, now I feel like the baton girl. I'm getting at my wand, I'm about to hit someone on the head with this. No, this seems weird and like there's definitely something going on. No, I like in college, I would. If your friends, if they're just naturally like a big friend group, I could see the friend just being like, hey, I'm gonna go to the store and the girl's like, oh, I need this from Target or I need this, I'll cruise with you and cruise back. But if the girlfriend's available first and you're not asking her first, I think that's weird.
Speaker 1:See, that's what I thought too, because you know, obviously, you know, if you're married, it's like two times worse, yeah, yeah, if you're married, it's like 10 times worse, yeah, yeah. It's like it was interesting because some people were like, well, but this is her best friend, you know. And some people were like, yeah, that's the problem. I mean they were going at it online too, because sometimes I'll read them, because it's kind of simple at each other and I was like, wow, because you would think about it. And it's like, hmm, why wouldn't a girlfriend, why wouldn't she just ask her best friend to take her Exactly, or ask her like, hey, is it okay if Johnny, whatever or whatever, take me to the store?
Speaker 2:You know what I mean Did the girlfriend run into them at the store or someone else did.
Speaker 1:The girlfriend ran into them.
Speaker 2:No, no, okay, that's really weird. That's officially weird, because I can see if they're all in college and like their girlfriend is in class all day and they're all hanging out like on a porch together and the boyfriend just says I'm gonna go to target and the girl just like, oh, I'll go with you. Then that's, that's like I could. It's kind of weird, but I can see that being okay. But if your girlfriend is actively around, no, that would be. If I was in Target buying deodorant, I saw my boyfriend, my best friend, but it's so funny because I would only be mad at him for some reason.
Speaker 1:And you know what's so interesting with when he confronted them, when she confronted them, he was like but this is so. So your best friend and you know she's like so why don't you ask me first, you know? And it's like, yeah, that's weird. Why didn't you ask me first, you know? And it's like, yeah, that's weird. And there were some people, and it was interesting. I saw some remarks where they were like, you know, the guy probably wasn't really up on what was going on, but the girl, but the best friend, knew what she was doing yeah, I was like wow, okay, I mean, that was an interesting response, you know exactly in like in a wonderful way.
Speaker 2:It's like you almost want to have your best friends indifferent towards your boyfriend, like I saw someone describe it once, which I think is so funny where they're like we all view our friends, boyfriends, as just like extras on a play. Where I'm like, oh you're here too. Like like I, my best friend, I heard what her husband is awesome, but like him and I would never go to the store together. I'm there for her. He's just kind of a side character and I feel like he feels that way about me too. That's weird.
Speaker 1:Some women look at it as even if nothing happened, by you not telling me. That's kind of like cheating.
Speaker 2:Yeah, yeah, that's definitely weird. This seems like something that when you're in your 20s and you're kind of all a blended group, a friend group, I think that's a little more understanding. But as you start to get into your 30s and 40s you have more of a deeper, more serious relationship, I think. Then it starts to get weirder.
Speaker 1:So mess with something out there. Don't fall for this trap.
Speaker 2:Exactly. Don't do it, just go to the store by yourself. Actually, don't even go to the store, just order everything on Instacart and watch your mans. There you go. Well, that annoys me.
Speaker 2:Okay, well, I'm going to keep with the trend of daylight savings time and just being sleepy, and we're going to talk about the latest trend of sleep maxing, which is so funny because nowadays it's like I feel like a lot of gen z just calls everything like bio maxing or like diet maxing. It's like no, you're just eating healthy, you're really. Sleep maxing is like the best ways to hack your sleep and really it's just called like getting a good night rest, and so they, they. They even saw a thing that it was like makeup maxing and it's just people putting on a makeup. So this trend of maxing out everything is hilarious, but sleep maxing is pretty much doing everything you can to get a really restful night's sleep.
Speaker 2:Now they said that more and more people are getting like a full eight to nine hours of sleep, whereas before, in older generations, we only got like six to seven. You know we always, we always went for eight hours, but that wasn't always the case. I saw one person comment it's too expensive to be awake now. That's really funny, and so I just wanted to read a list really quick of some things that are sleep maxing to see which ones we're doing. Okay, so I'm going to read out and just tell me really quick if you're doing these or not. No liquids two hours before bed.
Speaker 1:I don't do that. I'm not doing that, yeah.
Speaker 2:Me too Cold room temperature.
Speaker 1:I do like a little cool.
Speaker 2:Okay, pitch black room.
Speaker 1:I don't like pitch black. I like a little cool. Okay, pitch black room. I don't like pitch black.
Speaker 2:I like a TV one, me too White noise machine.
Speaker 1:No.
Speaker 2:Me too. I fall asleep like with TikTok still in my hand. Let's see Magnesium. I'm taking a magnesium supplement. I do that one Shower one hour before bed.
Speaker 1:I don't do that. One Shower one hour before bed.
Speaker 2:I don't do that one.
Speaker 1:Okay.
Speaker 2:No caffeine after 3 pm. Definitely don't do that. I could have an espresso and like sleep immediately, Like it's not good. And then the last one let's see as soon as you wake up sunlight, Like go for a walk outside and get sunlight within the first like 20 minutes I would love to say, yes, I do that, but no, I don't okay, I do that one um and then eating two kiwis before bed I don't, but that's actually not a bad idea though right, kiwis are awesome.
Speaker 2:So yeah, kiwis are supposed to be like a really great sleep aid. So those are some of the sleep maxi things there's also I don't know if you've ever heard on tiktok there's this thing called like the sleepy girl mocktail that girls make with um tart, cherry juice, a little bit of magnesium and then some other like little things, and I've actually made them for myself and it does. It does taste really good does it work? Yeah, it works, but you have to like.
Speaker 1:I end up mixing my tart cherry juice with other stuff because it doesn't taste that good, so that I'm like now I have a stomach ache well, you know, I saw, I saw some of the videos online and you know, most of it was like stuff that okay, yeah, that makes sense, that makes sense. But every so often I ran into videos where they're like doing 20, 30 things before they go to bed. It's like, okay, that's a little excessive.
Speaker 2:I'm not yeah, I have to really like be disciplined about even every night, like washing the dishes, doing all my dental. You know like I just something. There are some nights I just brush my teeth and then I don't do anything else, but it's like flossing all this kind of stuff. You know like there's a lot to do, but you feel so much better in the morning when you wake up and the dishes are done and things are neat.
Speaker 1:That's true. That's true. We've gotten a little lazy over time because we're now empty nesters since the sun moved out. Oh yeah, so we don't straighten up as quickly as we used to.
Speaker 2:Yeah, all these people that, like I, have some friends that lay out their outfits, like every night At nighttime they'll get everything for the next day assembled, whether it's like making their lunch and getting that all ready, and then they'll have their outfit picked out the next morning. I'm like I can't imagine what it's like to be that of a human where you wake up and everything is done for you.
Speaker 1:Now you know what I do do that you do. That's amazing.
Speaker 2:So you pick out your socks too.
Speaker 1:I pick out everything, even underwear. Everything's hung up. You do. That's so cool, I don't have to think about anything.
Speaker 2:Do you look at the weather, or you just kind of know like, okay, I'm just going to wear, I'll just be prepared for, like, whatever's going to happen.
Speaker 1:I'll glance at the weather to see Most of the time if it's like during the winter or the summer. I may not look right away because you know the summertime is going to be pretty much warm every day. Wintertime is pretty cold every day. So unless I have something specific to do, I really kind of don't glance at the weather. I may glance at it the next day or whatever. But yeah, I love getting my stuff together, just so I one less thing for me to think about the next day.
Speaker 2:That's so good. Now are you ever, when you wake up, in your, are you ever like I don't want to wear this, I don't want to wear a blue shirt? Like, do you ever feel that way? Or you're just like, well, I picked it out, I'm going with it.
Speaker 1:You know what? Pretty much I stick with it. Every so often I do change, but for the most part I stick with what I set aside.
Speaker 2:Okay, wow, that made me. I already respected you, but now my level of respect just went up 10 more points. I'm going to try to do that, yeah.
Speaker 1:It's fun, though it's fun Because, yeah, it's fun. Though it's fun because I like picking out my stuff and like, yeah, Now I have to admit I don't iron my stuff until the next day. I should do that the night before, but I don't do that. The fact that you're even ironing at all. I don't, so that's so good. That's like very adult and impressive. Yeah, I'm old school. I like the creases in my pants.
Speaker 2:That's so nice, see, that's like very adult and you just really do feel better about yourself, you know like. I try to remember that too when I'm working from home, even if I'm not really going to see anyone socially that day. Like you just mentally feel so much better when you actually put on like an outfit.
Speaker 1:I don't know if I couldn't work from sweatpants all day. My wife thinks I'm weird because even if I'm working from home and I'm not seeing anyone, I still put clothes on.
Speaker 2:That's wonderful, See. I think that's like mentally such a good thing.
Speaker 1:Yeah, she thinks I'm nuts for that.
Speaker 2:No, I couldn't. If anything, I'll just stay in like workout clothes all the time, but I won't. I couldn't do like pajamas all day. I would just feel like I have the flu or something.
Speaker 1:I think we're going to end this on a beautiful subject here. Yay, there is this viral challenge going on right now.
Speaker 2:It's called the. We Listen and we Don't Judge videos.
Speaker 1:Love it Love them In case someone hasn't seen or heard of these videos basically, what you have, you have a couple. It could be boyfriend, girlfriend, husband, wife, doesn't matter and it starts off saying, okay, we listen and we don't judge. I don what. I kind of fake like I was having fun at the movies, but I really don't. You know, it's kind of like fun. Yeah, yeah, confessions now. Do you think this is something that you and your boyfriend would do?
Speaker 2:well, it's so funny. All we do is we talk and we judge, so have. Most of our conversation is more like us both yipping and yapping about each other. So it'd be funny because I feel like if there were new ones it would be news to us, because I feel like constantly, in a good way, him and I are like always talking about what we do and we don't like. But yeah, I think it could be real. I think that could be really funny and cute. But I almost feel like I don't want to know what the other one's going to say, because I feel like we already know so much.
Speaker 1:Oh my God. In fact they had this one couple who did it on the Tamron Hall show and what was funny about it I don't know, maybe not so funny was they had did a video and the woman said we listen and we don't judge. All those times that I said I had a headache when you wanted to oh no. I was faking all of them oh no, that's kind of.
Speaker 2:Then I feel like it's gonna be a weird car ride home because see me personally, I'll smile it off, but I'm thinking.
Speaker 1:Yeah that's like a harsh one. Going to bust me out like that? Huh.
Speaker 2:Yeah, that's a pretty big one, Like, I think, something you know totally benign would be better.
Speaker 1:Right, it's like you know they had things like, and then Tamron is like well, how do you guys handle something like?
Speaker 2:that.
Speaker 1:Well, you know, we know it's all in fun and you know, hey, no big deal. I'm thinking they're lying. They're lying because when those cameras are off there's probably a different conversation it's so funny.
Speaker 2:I I had one of these, but with my parents. There was my mom used to make this dinner growing up where it was like a white fish and then white potatoes and these white like string beans. And then my dad and I would always, secretly, behind her back, say like, oh God, we're having the white dinner tonight. Like the white dinner is so gross. And then and then it took then like decades later, when I was finally an adult, my dad and I both said like we hated the white dinner. Yeah, and she was like her feelings were hurt, but she was like what, what? What do you just tell me? I would never cook it for you. All these times that we ate it, we would always secretly laugh at the white dinner because everything was a weird yellow color.
Speaker 1:If you got a great relationship, this would be a great challenge. But if you're the wrong kind of couple, this could really go left, because I was thinking like so what would happen if one of them goes? Hey, we listen and we don't judge. Um, just want to let you know I had a couple of affairs, but that was oh, yeah, yeah.
Speaker 2:You have to really make it like the easiest, cutest thing. Once I use your sock to clean up my spilled whatever, you almost have to make it a Disney-level PG-rated.
Speaker 1:Oh, exactly, exactly.
Speaker 2:Not like hey, I took your best friend shopping.
Speaker 1:Oh yeah. But yeah, it was kind of interesting. I'm like, wow, you're taking a big risk. You guys know each other because whoo, I don't want to know.
Speaker 2:What I already know is too much, so I'd rather not know as much.
Speaker 1:Yeah, but that was actually a pretty fun one, though, to see.
Speaker 2:I love those kind of ones.
Speaker 1:Wow, I can't believe it's been an hour.
Speaker 2:I know. And on Daylight Savings Time, look at us. Wow, I can't believe it's been an hour, I know, and on daylight savings time.
Speaker 1:look at us, there you go. Where Mel? Do you have anything coming up?
Speaker 2:I do. I have a fun show, um, not this Friday, but next Friday, march 21st, at the comedy store and I'll be hosting a show, and you know that one. There's like a big comedian, bobby Lee, who's on it, and stuff, another great comedian named Jimmy Shin. I will be hosting and having a very fun time.
Speaker 1:Nice.
Speaker 2:I'll be listening and judging. Actually, I'll be talking and others will be judging.
Speaker 1:There you go.
Speaker 2:I'll definitely keep an eye out for your cousin on the FBI show.
Speaker 1:Yes, I am definitely looking forward to seeing that myself.
Speaker 2:And what about you? Any cool things.
Speaker 1:Let's see Actually putting together stuff. I've already started my taping for my cooking show.
Speaker 2:Yeah.
Speaker 1:That's been pushed back too long, so I'm waiting for that Over the weekend and my other show that I have Thirsty Conversations. We had some great people on that show, so I'm looking forward to that coming out. One of them you may know his name is John Bolger.
Speaker 2:Okay.
Speaker 1:John Bolger is a comedian. He's also on AM7 in chicago cool, he does a lot of stuff behind the scenes. As far as um you know, he started off at second city and other famous you know clubs in the city and he does a lot more work behind the scenes now with producing and writing. But he has a lot of shows that's coming out that he's working on.
Speaker 2:Um is it b-o-s?
Speaker 1:uh, b-o-l-g-e-r bulger, okay, cool, yeah, so he's gonna be um, he's gonna have a lot of different things coming on.
Speaker 2:It was so fun having him on the show.
Speaker 1:I have to check it out, yeah so, but yeah, it was definitely a fun time and I'm I can't wait to have people watch it.
Speaker 2:So well, you're rocking it, everyone's rocking it.
Speaker 1:Oh, yes, absolutely and for everyone. Thank you so much for watching. We have so much fun. Always keep supporting us and please tell people about us so we can get in front of more people, either on podcasts or on TV. So I am Lawrence El. Yes, I am Lawrence Elrod.
Speaker 2:And I am Meryl.
Speaker 1:Clemo, have a great day. All Bye-bye.
