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Chaos in Late Night for 9/18/25

• Lawrence Elrod & Meryl Klemow

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Cancel culture takes a shocking turn as Jimmy Kimmel's late-night show faces indefinite suspension from ABC amid political pressure. Lawrence and Meryl unpack this troubling development, questioning whether we're witnessing the beginnings of entertainment censorship based on political allegiances. They explore the apparent hypocrisy of those who criticize cancel culture while celebrating when it targets voices they disagree with.

The conversation shifts to concerning social developments, including the revelation that over 70% of American teenagers now use AI chatbots for emotional companionship—with many finding these digital interactions more satisfying than relationships with actual humans. This trend raises profound questions about the future of human connection and emotional intelligence in younger generations.

From the mysterious death of a college student in Mississippi to Taylor Swift's increasingly elaborate security measures at football games, the hosts navigate a range of thought-provoking topics. They examine the announcement that "Secret Lives of Mormon Wives" star Taylor Frankie Paul will become the next Bachelorette, speculating whether this unconventional choice signals a new direction for the aging franchise.

The hosts also discuss celebrity fashion pushing boundaries with the "dressing naked" trend and the latest developments in the US-China deal regarding TikTok's future. Throughout, Lawrence and Meryl offer balanced perspectives while maintaining their trademark warmth and humor—proving that even in divisive times, thoughtful conversation remains possible.

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Speaker 1:

Welcome to this week's episode of Thirsty Topics. I'm Lawrence Elrod and I'm Meryl Clemo hey. Meryl, how's it going?

Speaker 2:

Good, how are you? We're recording. Yes, we are recording. I'm just saying things to confirm them. It's like me saying I have brushed my teeth. Yes, I have brushed my teeth.

Speaker 2:

Before I start with my first topic, I had to tell you something funny and I want everyone to know this that this week you were my latest victim of me messaging someone when I'm sleeping and going on tiktok. But luckily, my video that I sent you was just weird enough that I thought because it's not, it's not weird for us to message each other like news topics or even something funny. Like you're my friend, so I absolutely will like message you something newsworthy. You're silly now and then. But like I think I sent you something about like, what ai toothpaste would you use and anything. I just want anyone that's knowing that if you ever get anything from me that's like from 10 pm on to7 am, just know that it's me sleeping and I like lately I fall asleep and then first my phone will usually hit the head of my boyfriend and I fall asleep and then, uh, and then I've been known to just send different TikToks to people.

Speaker 1:

It was a very interesting. I'm like, okay, never thought about that.

Speaker 2:

You never did tell me what AI toothpaste you would choose, so I definitely want to know the answer. But yeah, I have to stop falling asleep scrolling TikTok because I'll repost stuff. One time I reposted stuff about people with horrible relationships with their mother and I have such a good talk a good thing with my mom. So, yeah, it's so silly all right now.

Speaker 2:

Well, thanks for the heads up, though exactly I told my friends, if I'm messaging you at 3 am, it's not me, it's sleeping me, uh, okay. Well, one of the things, one of the reasons I couldn't stop scrolling tiktok, is I'm messaging you at 3 am. It's not me, it's sleeping me, okay. Well, one of the things, one of the reasons I couldn't stop scrolling TikTok, is because the latest in just insane news that Jimmy Kimmel's show was yanked off the air. So Disney ABC is taking Jimmy Kimmel's late night talk show off the air indefinitely, amid a lot of public pressure from the FCC. Indefinitely amid a lot of Public pressure from the FCC.

Speaker 2:

Kimmel made some Comments in his Monday night monologue About Charlie Kirk's Suspected killer and then, you know, to some this was like a Shocking decision. But I think those of us have been Following along for a while, we know that Trump is does not like Kimmel and they've been going back and forth at each Other for a while. But this is definitely One of the most like, boldest and craziest things. I'm just like. I mean just taking people off the air because you don't like what they say or because you find what they have to say offensive, and of course I mean my first thought is also all the people that work on his show, that they're affected, with their families and who don't deserve that, you know. So I do think I think it wasn't getting great numbers, like I also think it really wasn't like probably pulling in a lot of money, but I think to me, like that it could have gone on for a long time and to have this taken off because of like speech is just really crazy.

Speaker 1:

I agree with you. I mean, I literally rewatched that episode multiple times and I didn't see anything that was so crazy or over the line. Because you know, it's no secret, I love watching Jimmy Kimmel. He's one of my favorite people to watch and I have seen him say way worse about the press. I mean way worse and it's like wow, this is what gets you taken off the air. And I know I remember watching cnn and there was a guest on there that said that, um, he believes it has nothing to do with charlie kirk, but something to do with trump getting revenge, basically oh yeah, definitely I think he, because he even tweeted out like your net, or kimmel is next, or something, after they fired stephen colbert.

Speaker 2:

And the funny thing is too, it's probably not even jimmy kimmel that wrote.

Speaker 1:

It was like a writer, you know, and so I know it goes past a different amount of people but, imagine if you're that writer like it's like oopsie, sorry everyone you know, yeah, and the crazy thing about it, I think this is a dangerous slippery slope. You're going down because we're always going to have Republican presidents. We're going to always have Democratic presidents. They switch up every so often. So you start setting up this dangerous precedence about well, I don't like what you said about my team, so I'm going to get you taken off the air. Well, what's to say or what's to stop the opposing party from doing the same thing to you? I know, and you know how far is this going to go? A lot of people don't understand is that? Whether you like or dislike his material, this is a dangerous slope for America period.

Speaker 2:

to me, Exactly Because, exactly Like I think.

Speaker 2:

I mean, if you look at like Fox News anchors and stuff like that, like a lot of people across the board on both parties have said stuff that could be deemed as offensive or antagonistic.

Speaker 2:

And then to me it's just so weird because, like I definitely identify more and more just as like very independent, I tend to lean one way but I definitely am more independent. But like that is part of the thing that the right has always like said about the left is that it's a lot of cancel culture and like they don't like that. It's, you know, too woke. You're gonna cancel for this or cancel for that and this is like the ultimate kind of like cry baby woke thing. So, like you know, I can see that sometimes where it's like I think there have been sites where if you don't post something, or you do post something, you're kind of like ostracized or whatever, and the right doesn't like that. And then now it's like, okay, well, you're, you're doing it times a million. So, um, I really do feel like it's both sides sometimes are like little children and we just need like a big parent to come and help us.

Speaker 1:

But I agree, I totally agree. I mean, I guess the thing I'm looking at is is that you you know about cancel culture on the one side, but then you're celebrating Jimmy Kimmel being taken off the air. That's really cancel, exactly. Either you're for it or against it. You can't be both. You can't be for cancel culture when it favors you, but when it's against you, oh I hate. Cancel culture when it favors you, but when it's against you, oh I hate. Cancel culture. You can't have it both ways.

Speaker 2:

I know, and something very interesting I was just talking about this with a friend is that I feel like Hollywood, almost sometimes to a detriment, is like known for being like very, very liberal, like in a good way, but then sometimes I think because of how out of touch Hollywood people can be when they say something for a cause, all of us just kind of roll our eyes and it's just like, oh god, it's almost better sometimes for, like people in hollywood, to not speak up so much, because the rest of the world at this point is like shut up.

Speaker 2:

But but I think also too, it's like the hollywood people seem to be very like liberal, but then the executives and like the, the people in charge of pulling the rug out from everyone it it's like it is weird. How not that it is so the people that make the big, big, big decisions seem to be doing power plays that are really not human.

Speaker 1:

Yeah, I agree, I mean another show that I like watching. I like watching the View, and what was really eye-popping today is they said not one thing about Jimmy Kimmel being suspended.

Speaker 2:

I know, they know, because everyone is like cancel these women cancel these women. Also. That's so amazing that you like the view. I feel like you should get a no more. It's like a man that likes the view. That's very sweet.

Speaker 1:

I like hearing everybody's point of view. I like hearing everybody's point of view, whether you agree or disagree. I think everyone should have a plate at the table and sit there and be able to express how they feel about a particular person, subject or whatever. Sometimes you're going to agree, sometimes you're going to disagree, and that's okay.

Speaker 2:

Yeah, exactly Exactly, and the beautiful thing with all these things to listen to is that, like I don't have to listen to Tucker Carlson or you know he could do his thing and I have the power to like choose what I'm watching and ingesting and sometimes I do watch things that I feel like are oppositional, just because I really like to see the different viewpoints. And it's good not to live in like your own echo chamber, so I really do like tune into that a lot of other stuff. But, um, yeah, I just feel like this is weird for an executive to say we're taking it off the air because, like, what he said is, you know, bad, because that's not talking for the general public or for a lot of people. Like half the country doesn't feel that way at all. So, like I do, I do really do feel like maybe the ratings were bad, but I definitely feel like this is a personal vendetta from Trump for sure.

Speaker 1:

Oh, I agree, and you know it makes you wonder if there's something bigger going on, because it was shocking that not one thing was said on the View today.

Speaker 2:

I know, I know.

Speaker 1:

Very shocking. I mean, they did the show, but how about I explain it? You can kind of feel something was in the air.

Speaker 2:

Yeah, even like SNL or ones that have been making fun of the president and everything for a while. It's scary because you always think, with these other countries like this, how does it happen that you're not allowed to state your opinion or make fun of the leaders or whatever? It is slowly happening.

Speaker 1:

Oh yeah, I agree and I think I think there's something bigger going on, because supposedly and I'm going to say supposedly, because I don't know, but there's rumblings about you know there's a possible deal or a merger deal going out there that they're trying to protect, or whatever you know. The problem is, when you run into situations like this, there's all kinds of conspiracy theories that get thrown out and you don't know which is real and which isn't.

Speaker 2:

Yeah, now let me ask you something, cause I'm not sure exactly how I feel about it, but there's also a part of me that I for like late night entertainment shows like Fallon and Kimmel and Conan and stuff. To me part of that job, is it that that I? I do think sometimes when it gets too political, it like does take the fun and uniting like. In my mind those shows are supposed to unite us and almost make us laugh and take our minds off of like the hard-hitting politics do you think? I don't know, it just seems like it's also to me. I'm not against Kimmel, but I feel like what should have just been said was it's horrible that someone was shot. Anyway, moving on to this sloth that we're going to see the zoo bringing in or something, I don't know what place very politics or whatever now has in our late night, because to me I'd rather leave it out and leave a lot of it out and just have it be just more like uniting and entertainment type of stuff you know what?

Speaker 1:

I totally agree with what you're saying, but I guess the only issue with that statement is if you want jimmy to do that, then tell fox and other hardcore right-wing media outlets to do the same thing.

Speaker 2:

I guess, just for me. I just mean the late night ones. I don't know who, the Craig Ferguson's or I don't even know who's on at this point, but almost exactly Not the more like CNN and Fox ones, but the late night the Colbert's, all those ones, exactly, I just almost mean the late night the, the coal bears, all those ones, stuff. Yeah, exactly exactly like. I just almost mean like the late night variety shows, like how letterman was and johnny carson, like I don't know, because I didn't really watch a ton of them.

Speaker 2:

I don't know how like, like totally political they got. I know someone, maybe their guest did, like george carlin and people that he had on, but like the host itself to me, I'm just like I don't want to hear on both ends of things, just like it gets like so deep down a rabbit hole. I think that for, like the late night comedy shows, I think I'd rather just like it, like it maybe acknowledge it and try to bring the world together, but then, like, try to stick with more entertainment yeah, I mean you definitely have a great point.

Speaker 1:

I mean, you know one of the things, and I think, for what you're saying to me, snl does a great job of this, because SNL, you know, they make fun of everyone.

Speaker 2:

It doesn't matter who you are or whatever, but they do a great job of keeping it balanced and humorous and not take it too far, to the extreme, which is very hard to do yes, because I feel like we're all going berserk, because it's like politics is blending into everything, like the fact that like taylor, swift and kimball and like you can't you can't like look without something being polarized, and I think it's making everyone nutty. So I feel like we need more and more things that are just like uniting us and calming us and just trying to be like funny.

Speaker 1:

Yeah, I agree. And I mean, do you think and this is a great question for you do you think that this is going to somehow maybe change or alter the way comedians you know?

Speaker 2:

talk about politics. Now I'm laughing already because it's like I'm already seeing a lot of my comedy friends fighting, definitely, like I mean I'm people like, like comedians that are saying even like free palestine, and like things like that in their speeches are already creating like already existing divide or just deepening it, you know, and so absolutely, and I know I know friends that are friends with like writers on jimmy kimmel and that work on that show and stuff, so like that my, you know, I don't know them directly, but like the one my friends are upset for those people. Um, so yeah, I mean, I think I think comedy wise it will make like stand-up wise, it will make a lot of people just dig in harder and almost double down. But then, like, like I always dreamed of, like one of my goals was, is to like be do a set on like a late night show, and then now I'm like, okay, by the time I'm ready and I'm working my way towards that, like what is my late night? It's just going to be like an ai robot that I have to like get approved by every single political party, you know. So to me it's like the our dreams like don't even exist anymore, of performing on Ellen and all these things, because all these things are tainted weirdly. So, yeah, I think it will do both. It will make people double down. But then people like Fallon, I imagine, is probably like okay, I'm just going to stick to dancing and singing with Ariana Grande, kind of things.

Speaker 1:

Yeah, Now I'm curious Do you think that Jimmy Kimmel will be back?

Speaker 2:

No, I don't, Wow, really I don't think he is, because I think he is so already mouthing off at things that I think he will be back, maybe on a different network or something I feel like he is going to be off of, like Disney and ABC.

Speaker 1:

Wow, really.

Speaker 2:

But I don't know. I also do feel like, if anything, there's also like a third sector of people that I feel like I'm part of that are just fed up with like like just how fragmented we are and maybe like a new type of more entertainment for the sake of like good, uplifting news and uniting people. If anything. That's almost one of my new pivot thoughts of just acknowledging the bad but then focusing more on that type of entertainment.

Speaker 1:

Interesting. I kind of wonder what they're going to do with that slot then if they don't bring them back because they're in a time-time spot.

Speaker 2:

I know it's so funny. Every day that goes by with these news stories you always have to, as a comedian too, think in your mind okay, how am I going to talk about this? I think I had like four days off and then I was so thankful that I don't have to do any shows, like four days off, and then I was so thankful that I don't have to do any shows these four days.

Speaker 1:

Yeah, I kind of wonder if there's going to be backlash if they permanently don't bring Jimmy back, because he did have a big following and there was a lot of people that watch him. You kind of wonder is there going to be backlash to where? Because right now local know local stations are fighting with, with uh, with streaming channels, because streaming is the big thing. Now most people are getting rid of cable. They're not even watching local channels anymore, they're watching streaming now. So if they don't bring jimmy back, I would not be surprised if he has a podcast or a show on a streaming channel and it's probably going to be 10 times more popular than he is now definitely exactly like yeah, if him and like colbert team up or something that would be amazing and you know what, if, if we had said that a year ago, we'd probably like no, that's probably not but you

Speaker 2:

know what that could really happen oh yeah, absolutely, I definitely think so. I think a lot of stuff now is just like his buddy, adam Carolla, was able to build like a whole life out of just his own independent stuff. And it's so weird to have, like, I know, the Writers Guild just put out a statement that they stand with Kimmel and everything, and it's so weird to have all these entities like briefing with each other, you know, because, like, the Writers Guild can't really go. I love it and it's the best people ever, but it's like they need directors in Hollywood to put their stuff on and so, yeah, it's just a big cluster.

Speaker 1:

Yeah, Something tells me that this is not going to be the end of it. So we'll see. Do you think they're going to go after more late-night comedians?

Speaker 2:

Oh, yeah, I definitely do, I Do. You think they're going to go after more late night communities? Oh yeah, I definitely do, I definitely do. Yeah, I don't know Exactly who, but I mean that would be Really weird. If, like censorship and we'll talk later on about TikTok, but like the word on the street too, is that like TikTok is going to be starting To be like used more of a surveillance tool and everything too.

Speaker 1:

But the scary part is that may be true. That's the scary part. If it's not already a surveillance tool, we just don't know it.

Speaker 2:

Yes, so it will be interesting, but yeah.

Speaker 1:

Oh, yes. Well, talking about a very, very unfortunate incident, have you ever heard of the singer? His name is David. Yes, have you ever heard of the singer? His name is David. Yes, he just had a recent incident that happened. Let's see here no-transcript. A body of a teenager that was missing was found in the singer's trunk of his Tesla. The singer's name is David. The development came after the Los Angeles County Medical Examiner Wednesday identified the female body discovered last week in the trunk of a towed Tesla. Registered to the singer as a 15-year-old Celeste Rivers. She was a runaway that's been missing, I believe, for over a year. So right now they're trying to figure out. You know what happened to her? Was it foul play? So far the singer has not been arrested or anything. They're still doing investigations, but this is kind of weird, I mean. What are your thoughts?

Speaker 2:

my thought exactly because the way that all the news was, it was like there was a body found in this person's car and it wasn't like this person is being charged with anything. It was, and I was like I don't understand. Does that mean someone just crawled in the car and like got in, or was he framed? Um, you know, I haven't heard of david in a long time. Like I think he's been out of to me at least he's been out of, like the news. But, um, yeah, it seemed very suspicious and weird and I I couldn't really understand exactly. And the fact that they're saying it's like a Tesla, it's just I'm like did this person, did the Tesla, like drive itself into something? Or like I don't, you don't really understand, you know.

Speaker 1:

Yeah, cause it was kind of interesting that they mentioned the car brand. Normally they don't do that, they just say Exactly.

Speaker 2:

Did someone self open it and then get in? Or like did he, is he under investigation? It open it and then get in, Is he under investigation? It's also a weird way to break the news that a body was found in this person's car without quickly saying we don't suspect him or he's talking to authorities.

Speaker 1:

What's weird about it is you're right. They didn't say that they suspect them or they don't suspect them.

Speaker 2:

They just said it, which is kind of weird in itself. Sounds like maybe another hit piece against Tesla. It's very sad, very, very weird and maybe like I don't know, that's just very weird to have a body in your car and you would think immediately he'd be like oh, my car was parked here and I didn't do this, or like my friend borrowed my vehicle, or like I don't know.

Speaker 1:

It just seems very, very weird yeah, there's reports that I guess on one of his fingers he has some kind of tattoo, and it's the same kind of tattoo, on the same finger or whatever, as the body that was found on his trunk. Really now, whether that's a coincidence or not, I don't know, but it kind of makes you wonder.

Speaker 2:

Yeah, that really does. Yeah, that's weird. And also you would think that they wouldn't put that out unless they had evidence. I think, if anything, if we knew more about the story, it's like, oh, someone murdered a person and then put them in the singer's car.

Speaker 1:

You know weird time. The whole thing is really weird, but I think that it didn't get a whole. It did get some play on social media, but not as much as everything else going on, because this is what's going on this week. But I don't know, it's just really weird, really weird.

Speaker 2:

Yeah, I have to wonder. I haven't heard. Were you familiar with David before?

Speaker 1:

Before I heard the story. No, I wasn't Okay. Is he a big? I'm assuming he's pop, or is he?

Speaker 2:

Yeah, I think he was a few years ago too, oh, okay.

Speaker 1:

Did he put out anything recently?

Speaker 2:

No, not that I know of, but I'm also I'm bad at that kind of stuff. I only know Alanis Morissette, who I don't think would drive a Tesla. Okay, well, we'll keep an eye on that because I feel like more will be announced soon. Another singer you may have heard of, an independent artist called Taylor Swift. Believe it or not, she's exactly. She hardly gets any press, but it's like it's so funny. Whenever I prepare for our recordings and you know talking to everyone, like every time I'm just like, okay, let me like google Taylor Swift if I can't find anything now at this time.

Speaker 2:

This isn't really newsworthy, but I thought it was at least an interesting topic to bring up that. She just you know, she was at the last season. A lot of her Kansas City Chiefs like appearances. We saw her directly. We saw her with Blake Lively. We saw her with the parents and chiefs like appearances. We saw her directly. Like we saw her with blake wively. We saw her with the, with the parents, and you know, like part of everything was what is she wearing? The camera zooming in on like her, every face and every expression.

Speaker 2:

Now, this one, now this season, might be a little bit different because, um, when they were playing the eagles. She came in through like a big barricade, basically, you know. So, like they, they put up a huge black barricade, like almost like a partition, to separate them, and then they held it. And then her and her team walked by and people know, knew it was her, because it was like first it was her security and her assistant. And then you see like little shoes going by and people are saying, okay, maybe she's doing this in light of like some of the recent violence that has gone on. Um, and then there's also word on the street that her like box may be tinted so that we can't see her as much. Um, now do you think this is like because she's not getting enough privacy, or do you feel like she's getting overexposure or security or like all of it?

Speaker 1:

I think somebody gave her this dumb idea because really here's the thing when you know a celebrity's walking through, putting up a black curtain or whatever, walking them down out, you still know who the person is yeah, yeah, yeah, and it only brings more intrigue.

Speaker 2:

I feel like you know.

Speaker 1:

Exactly. It does the opposite, because now you're attracting, you're bringing attention to yourself.

Speaker 2:

Yeah, what about you though? That like kind of now, like you know, I feel, like once unfortunately we know that sadly like once one shooting happens, like a lot of people get crazy ideas and I'm not kidding, I would be like if I was her or Billie Eilish, or like that's one of the reasons I don't want to be like crazy, crazy famous or anything, because that seems like a nightmare to just have a security risk, like everywhere you go.

Speaker 1:

Yeah, I mean, unfortunately, you know that's one of the negative parts about success Because, again, you know, one of the things that some celebrities say is it's almost like being a prisoner.

Speaker 2:

Yeah.

Speaker 1:

You have the money and the means to do whatever you want whenever you want, but you really can't because, again, you got to have security around you. You got to be cautious about where you go, who you have around. So you know little things like you and I take for granted going to the store, going to the movies. You know somebody like a Taylor Swift it's a big production if they want to go to the movies.

Speaker 2:

Yeah, and then I saw a lot of comments that are like she doesn't have to go to every game or she doesn't have to go to the games and she just wants attention. But it's like like that is her fiance, you know, you do want to support him. But I also feel like maybe there would be a way, I don't know, maybe she could like get to the games earlier. Like there has to be some creative ways in which she could like get to the box before and doesn't have to pass by everyone. But then I don't know. It's just weird and I can totally understand why she may want like a dimmed box, because maybe she also doesn't want to be shown on TV every other second when she's just trying to watch the game or take away from Travis or the rest of the football game itself.

Speaker 1:

Oh yeah, definitely. And you know what? She's supporting her fiancé. That's normal. That's a normal thing people do, except she happens to be one of the biggest stars on the planet, exactly.

Speaker 2:

Yeah, he goes to one of her concerts. It's probably exhausting for them to support each other.

Speaker 1:

Exactly, I think I don't know. To me, everyone's intrigued with celebrities and everything, but sometimes people could be so intrigued that it's like, okay, do you have a life?

Speaker 2:

yeah, I know, I know mine was more. It's interesting to, like you, know about the barriers itself and, and that is so sad if, like, it's a security concern, I think no one, no matter how famous they are or not, should have to worry about just like walking 10 feet into a room and having something bad happen to them yeah, I agree with that.

Speaker 1:

I mean, you know what? She's living her best life. I tip my hat off to her I know me too.

Speaker 2:

She can't see you tip your hat off.

Speaker 1:

But well, um, been a lot of crazy stuff this week and this story is actually pretty disturbing, but I felt it was very important that we covered it. This is a story about a college student that went to school down in Mississippi. The body of a Delta State University student was found hanging from a tree. The sad part about this thing is that they're trying to figure out whether there was any foul play. Law enforcement said there's no foul play. The parents and their friends his friends say that he was a happy, go lucky guy, had no reason to do anything to himself. It doesn't make any sense and, um, you know, I could tell you as a parent of a child uh, in college, one of your, your biggest fears is your child being safe.

Speaker 2:

Yeah.

Speaker 1:

Seeing stories like this doesn't make me, or other parents, feel any better. The family of a Black student who was found hanging from a tree on a college campus in Mississippi has retained the civil rights attorney, ben Crump, as questions continue to mount around the death. On Monday, staff at Delta State University found the body of Demar Travion Trey Reed near campus pickleball courts. Micah Piller, the Delta State police chief, has said Reed appeared to have died by suicide and that there were no signs of foul play. But concerns have grown and the case has brought up painful memories of the state's history of racist violence. Then it goes on to say while local police and the Mississippi Bureau of Investigation look into the deathorneys representing the Reeds family are conducting their own investigation and plan to seek an independent autopsy. This is a very, very troubling, troubling story, and I don't know what are your thoughts on this, meryl.

Speaker 2:

I have lots of thoughts. My number one thought is I don't know, I hope the autopsy is like done honestly and you know if they did find foul play. A lot of times very sadly, these things are like covered up, whether it's by the local police or the university itself or you know, because they don't want extra publicity in a bad way. Um, so I hope, whatever is the truth like comes out, and I think that would give people not peace but at least like hopefully. Like you know, knowing the information sometimes helps, whatever amount it could help on the other side.

Speaker 2:

I think a lot of people that have lost ones to suicide have like sadly been like they did seem happy and, you know, upbeat, like it's not always the case that people are really upset, like some sometimes, and it could be a quick thing, like someone gets broken up with or someone looks at their finances and you know we never really know exactly what's happening. I don't know if there's drugs or alcohol, but to me, like it definitely does seem suspicious and like, of course, my first thought is this does seem like a racial related thing, but I also, like you don't know and you know that's just where my mind goes to.

Speaker 2:

But we don't know, and if so, that's like, of course, like beyond horrific.

Speaker 1:

Yeah, I'm really hoping that if they feel that there was no foul play to me, there shouldn't be any issue with the body being released to the family to do their own independent autopsy, and it shouldn't be any any issue with the family's lawyers having access to the evidence if that's the case.

Speaker 2:

That's right, I forgot about that. Is everyone allowed to get like an independent autopsy?

Speaker 1:

Well, once the body is released to the family, I'm assuming that it's up to family what they do with the body and everything. But also, you know, it also depends on the condition of the body. In other words, when they did their autopsy they didn't remove any evidence or, you know, do anything to the body. That would make that second autopsy difficult to complete. So those are kind of like the unknowns. But I do understand that Mississippi has not had the greatest reputation years ago when it comes to race relationships.

Speaker 2:

Yeah, and that just seems so.

Speaker 1:

People get on there saying that I'm dogging Mississippi. This is a known fact.

Speaker 2:

It's not a I mean, this is definitely like I promise we'll go to a happier thing soon. But I also think it seems strange to me that a young man would hang himself by the tree. That does not. I'm sorry to bring that up to people, but it seems like there would be other ways that people would do it, rather than just publicly hanging yourself in front of a tree. But I don't know.

Speaker 1:

And again you kind of think about it and it's it's bad when someone takes their own life, it's horrific, but it's like he would go outside by the pickleball court. Maybe I'm looking too much into it, but that just doesn't make sense. He would go outside by the pickleball court, I know, Maybe I'm looking too much into it, but that just doesn't make sense.

Speaker 2:

It could be just me, I agree. I don't know the stats on it, but I would argue that young males, no matter what, don't typically do that by publicly eating out. People tend to usually do it quietly or privately or whatever.

Speaker 1:

Yeah, let's definitely pray for that family.

Speaker 2:

Yeah, absolutely. I hope we do know the truth of what happened and either way, no matter what happened, it looked like a very nice young man was taken away one way or another. So, yeah, it's very sad.

Speaker 1:

I agree.

Speaker 2:

Okay, something, something way more not serious, and it was so funny. The Emmys happened and I wrote this down for us to talk about and now it seems like a million things have happened since that. I did not watch, which is so funny, like I don't know what's wrong with me, that I live in los angeles and I'm like in, you know, in this world to a certain extent and I just like do not care whatsoever. But um the emmys, there was a lot of snubs. Uh, one of the biggest victories was um the studio, seth rogan for lead actor in a comedy series, and I've definitely heard that people love that so much. The Penguin followed with nine wins, then Severance and Adolescence, with eight wins apiece. Now, did you watch?

Speaker 1:

I kind of watched pieces here and there. To be honest with you, Okay, me too.

Speaker 2:

It's so funny, I don't even know this. Yet people were saying like, um the penguins, severance and the studio seemed to be like the big winners. And um adolescence. Adolescence is. Owen cooper made history not as the not only as the youngest winner in his category, but also as the youngest ever male Emmy winner, at age 15. Which I think that's kind of cute.

Speaker 1:

The one thing that I was really really kind of surprised about some people are talking about it Danielle Spencer, who played Dee on what's Happening Now years ago. She recently passed away and when they went through the you know to the memoriam, you know, going through the actors and actresses that aren't with us anymore, she was not in there, which was kind of shocking.

Speaker 2:

Really yeah.

Speaker 1:

I kind of think it was a little bit of a slap in the face personally, but that's just me, I don't know. What do you think? You think I'm looking into this a little bit too much, yeah.

Speaker 2:

It's so hard with these because I feel like I'll have people in shows and everything that I'm like they're amazing, they deserve an award, and then they won't even be mentioned or they'll lose out to someone that I don't understand.

Speaker 1:

I I feel like so much goes into these like choices that we don't even know whether it's just.

Speaker 2:

You know she passed away, she wasn't oh, oh, okay, oh oh, that's a good excuse at least, but, yes, definitely sad. Did they have like an in memoriam thing for her? I don't even know well, they have.

Speaker 1:

You know, they have it every time they have the Emmys, but noticeably she wasn't in.

Speaker 2:

She wasn't in there I thought you meant she was in there but didn't get nominated. Okay, oh man, yeah, I think that's. That's sad and terrible too, and I don't know. Sometimes these things that just like it confounds me, like who is mentioned and who's not mentioned, type of things, yeah, I mean, she was well known, I mean she was a big, big child star.

Speaker 1:

And then, you know, when she became an adult, you know, she got out of the Hollywood light to, you know, become a veterinarian, which you know it was good she, you know the career didn't destroy her. You know what I mean. So it was a little bit shocking that they, uh, that they didn't mention it, or you know at least acknowledge.

Speaker 2:

You know her passing, but that's just me. Yep, I know me too. Um, I also like it was so funny when I saw who was wearing what and everything. I'm just this is not the time. Like that has to be hard, for it's not only celebrities too. I have to remember that. It's like a lot of people doing what they love, even if we don't care. There's still a lot of like hair and makeup people and the stylists, and you know there's a lot of people that go into making this machine. So, even if it seems a little out of touch now, I still look at it from that point of view. Oh yeah definitely, definitely.

Speaker 1:

Did you like the little bit?

Speaker 2:

that you did see. No, if anything, it just made me like some of the people that were saying I might be alone on this. But like when I see once again, when I see like actors and everyone getting like too political, I think they know. I think they think what they're doing is because they have like a giant mouthpiece and they're making change, but really everyone's like shut up, like it's just so. Yeah, I think you're actually like hurting the causes that you're trying to rally for, but I'm very weird.

Speaker 1:

So Well, this is an interesting topic. In fact, I was totally shocked about this when I saw this myself. Did you know that over 70% of teens use chat box for social companionship? No 70% now.

Speaker 2:

No, what the heck. That's really weird. I thought it should be like 7%.

Speaker 1:

I mean, I knew that you know some do use it, but I was shocked at that statistic and actually my number is actually kind of low Because looking at my notes here, it says a recent common sense media study found that 72% of US teens have used AI companion at least once and 52% of them use it regularly often for emotional support, companionship and advice, with 39% finding the conversations as satisfying or more satisfying than with real friends. While AI companions offer consistent availability and nonjudgmental interaction, experts are concerned that they may hinder the development of reciprocal human relationships and emotional intelligence, especially for younger teens, and part of this also said that this also not only includes emotional, but sexual.

Speaker 2:

What? How? I mean, I don't want to know how. I think I know how.

Speaker 1:

I was stunned at this. That's crazy.

Speaker 2:

I'm really happy that we grew up at a time when we did, because I don't want to be part of this narrative whatsoever. This is sad and weird and I'm just like. I feel like any person over nine years old should like know better, and it's just very weird.

Speaker 1:

Well, you know what? I think it starts stemming from when we had the pandemic, where everyone was locked in and no one could really be with other people. You know what I mean. I know be with other people. You know what I mean. I know Because I remember when my son first started going to high school and we let him get on the bus because prior to that we would drop him off and pick him up from school. And you know, we was at the bus stop and, I swear to God, it was like over 100 kids there. I was like I asked my son where the hell did all these kids come from? Oh, that's so-and-so. They live around the block. That's so-and-so.

Speaker 1:

I said all these kids live in our neighborhood and it's like kids don't come outside anymore.

Speaker 2:

That's so sad, that is so sad.

Speaker 1:

I was stunned at how many kids actually live in my neighborhood. It was, yeah, but sad at the same time too.

Speaker 2:

And, and I don't know, I think this is kind of dangerous, because not dangerous in the fact that you know they're going to hurt themselves or hurt other people, but when you lose that ability to communicate with human beings, I think that does something to you not only emotionally, but also physically as well too yeah, we're meant to be like little tribal creatures with each other and to connect with people and like, even if it's, I think it's bad enough that we're online talking to our friends and you know, just like I feel like when I'm texting people, I don't even feel like I'm texting like a robot, but then to not even have an actual real person and just basically messaging yourself is like so weird and and we know too, we've talked too many times about how wrong ai is about everything and just like how frustrating and annoying it can be and it's basically just like a yes man.

Speaker 1:

So, yeah, I feel like that's very sad and weird yeah, and I think I think what it does too, is it? It hinders a child from being able to be able to handle real situations because, yeah, for someone, they're going to treat you way differently than that ai is going to treat you so you need to be able to handle people that aren't going to be nice to you. Sometimes, maybe most of the time, people you know kind of being an a-hole to you. That's real life.

Speaker 2:

Yeah, one time when my boyfriend was talking to his AI about making a plan for us or something on vacation and I was like tell it that you and your girlfriend so that it knows your AI better know that you have a girlfriend he was like, okay, my girlfriend and I are looking for a good lunch place. I'm like don't go talking to your AI bot.

Speaker 1:

You're good. As long as it didn't answer back, why do we have to talk about her?

Speaker 2:

Exactly. It's like yeah, why do you mention her?

Speaker 1:

But the great about a Merle is that they may be coming sooner than we think.

Speaker 2:

Yeah, I know, it freaks me out.

Speaker 1:

I just hope that. I hope this is a fad and it does become a true trend that keeps going, because if kids lose the ability to start being able to communicate with each other, um, it's going to be rough. It's going to be rough. It's going to be rough. It's growing up.

Speaker 2:

I think too. I feel like, not even kids. I mean like kids, but also as well, people that are like in the dating age, you know, like, I'm sure, like college students and people in their like thirties and forties. I bet there's a lot of like 38 year old men that are like talking to their AI bots right now, who normally would be out there going on dates for women that are looking for husbands. We need the balance of people wanting to date and talk to each other. That's true.

Speaker 1:

The other part about it is what happens when you get out of this AI world and you try to talk to a human flesh and being and try to bring up some kind of conversation or anything, and you think to yourself this is different from the AI what? Am I doing wrong?

Speaker 2:

Yeah, I'm very glad to be. I just even thought the other day I'm really going to try to use the chat thing less and less because it's annoying and I feel like it doesn't make me happier. So I feel like I'll I use it for very like impersonal things. You know, like help me come up with this list for something, but I I would I'm asking it less and less questions and the more we know now about what's happening. I also would think everyone should be really careful about what you talk to your ai thing about, because at any point it could like expose all of us, and I've heard people can like go to jail for what you talk to your AI thing about, because at any point it could like expose all of us, and I've heard people can like put in a jail for what they talk about, or you know what I mean, like. So, oh yeah.

Speaker 1:

And that's actually real. I personally think that AI is a tool. I don't think it's meant to replace human beings. Yeah, I could be in the minority on that, but that's what I think. I think it's a tool To.

Speaker 2:

I could be in the minority on that, but that's what I think. I think it's a tool. To me it's like how Google is or something, or like an organizing assistant. It's not like someone I should talk to and just you know, like, yeah, it's not a companion, well, someone who's not looking for love on AI, but instead they're looking for it on.

Speaker 2:

The Bachelor is Taylor Frankie Paul, who is the star of the show previously Secret Lives of Mormon Wives who went first, got famous.

Speaker 2:

You know, she was one of the dancing moms the Mormon moms on TikTok that a few years ago went very, got very famous because there was this whole big scandal about how they were like swinging with each other and then she ended up getting divorced because some of the couples fell in love with each other and it just got really messy. And then they made the show of who on hulu, which was like a smash hit, um, and now she's going to be the bachelorette and so I think this is very interesting because she already has kids and we've already seen her through like a few different failed relationships. You know, like there's her baby daddy and then there's a uh, I guess there's two baby daddies at this point. But like, yeah, it'll be very interesting because this is the first pick. That's not really like homegrown. It's already someone else coming in as like a big star, unless I'm missing someone else. But, um, I think this is good to awaken ratings because, like I think I heard, the Bachelorette was kind of going downhill and things were getting stale.

Speaker 1:

Yeah, I mean, it doesn't surprise me that they're going in this direction, because you know they want to try and throw some spice out there to get people to watch it, Like wow, you know, and there's some people that may not be be familiar with who she is, but hear, but hear that, hey, she was a Mormon wife star. Well, let me take a look at this and see.

Speaker 2:

Yeah, Now will you be tuning in? Does this make you any more eager to watch, knowing that it's the Mormon swinging wife?

Speaker 1:

I know I probably should say yes, but probably not.

Speaker 2:

Really. At least it will give us something to talk about. Maybe on all of our weekly recaps we can do a Bachelor rewatch.

Speaker 1:

That's true. You know what, if she decides to do some interesting things, ratings will go up, exactly.

Speaker 2:

I hope she takes it seriously. Just because I don't know that was part of it on the show, I don't know how really, really truly, her heart is open for love.

Speaker 1:

That's true. That's true, but you have to give the producers credit for trying to spice things up, though, yeah absolutely. Let me ask you this question If you wanted to do something out of the box to really spice it up for the bachelor bachelorette, what would, what would you do or who would you have on there?

Speaker 2:

um, like, as the main person. Let's see, maybe like, maybe like a I guess a lot of the pop girls are taken now like a Selena or a Taylor, but I feel like I'd have a Dua Lipa or someone that's a really well-known already entertainer, or an Ariana Grande or someone that's just failed in love. I would also shake it up in the way that it wouldn't necessarily have to end an engagement, because I feel like that's so fake that we all know now that it's like the engagement is staged and it rarely makes it that way. So fake that we all know now that it's like the engagement is staged and it rarely makes it that way. Um, I would just have it end in like are they compatible for each other type of thing?

Speaker 2:

that's true that's true now you know enough to different like ages and body types for real like I don't think we need to see, I think, the the back of the old bachelor or whatever it was called senior bachelor or whatever, like that was in theory good but they still picked like way younger than him and I think we need different types of like like I really don't think like a lot of body sizes are, like you know, shown and if they would choose, I think they just need to get like a better range of actual normal type of people oh, I agree, you know, look like people that you really do see every day exactly because that's not.

Speaker 2:

Not everyone is into like pageant, looking people Like you know what I mean Like people, like real looking people. So yeah, oh, yeah.

Speaker 1:

And you know, I've always said this in the past, merrill is that there is no such thing as an ugly man or ugly woman, and the reason why I say that is you could put a male in front of five women or a female in front of five men, and every last one of them is going to see something different in that same person.

Speaker 2:

Exactly, exactly, yes, and so, yeah, I feel like the Bachelor gives it's like a very one note type of beauty in person, which is still wonderful, and a lot of people are still they're gorgeous, but like it's not. And a lot of people are still they're gorgeous but like it's not. I think Love is Blind did a very like, does a better job at that, because they've had like people that look way different, because obviously it's more about like connecting and not just what they look like oh, I agree.

Speaker 1:

I mean, if you're gonna be that shallow of a show, you know, instead of like skirting around the edges, just dip right into it and say, okay, you're going to have this hot, very, very, very famous porn star she's the new best. I mean, if you're going to put it out.

Speaker 2:

Actually, that would be funny, that would be really good, it would totally be a 180. I'm like because right now it's very like Catholic Middle America, like we're getting married and we're going to have a chastity belt on and stuff, and now it's like, okay, here's someone like we're on cheer.

Speaker 1:

I think that that would get a lot of ratings.

Speaker 2:

Yeah, and maybe, like the Taylor, frankie Paul is going in that direction because she did have a reputation at first as sort of like a Jezebel. You know she definitely had like a scarlet letter on her at first. You know she definitely had like a scarlet letter on her at first because you know she's a mom and she's been through a lot of different stuff. So this is kind of the first like I don't want to say tainted, because she's not tainted, but just in the eyes of a lot of people I'm sure she is.

Speaker 1:

Yeah, that's true. That's true. It'd be interesting. I may peek at it just to see.

Speaker 2:

Yeah, absolutely. It'll be interesting, though, because Bachelor is on ABC, right. I think now a lot of people are talking about boycotting ABC, so I feel like the Bachelor people are probably like we can't catch a break.

Speaker 1:

Yes, that is true. It's going to be interesting because it'll affect a lot of shows and you know, let's face it, if they start losing viewership, that affects the bottom line, because advertisers aren't going to want to pay if no one's watching Exactly. So talk about watching. There's a new fashion trend Coming out. Well, actually, it's already out. It's the new fashion craze of dressing naked. What have you heard of that, meryl?

Speaker 2:

I see it with a lot of my friends.

Speaker 1:

Well, this is, I guess, something that's been kind of billing for a while, but there is a lot of celebrities and some people doing it too where they are dressing in very, very, very revealing clothes, to the point to where only sensitive stuff are covered you know oh my gosh and a lot of stuff they're wearing is incredibly sheer, where you can see straight through and see their body. Do you think this fashion craze is kind of taking it over the top?

Speaker 2:

um, yes, like, okay, I I don't want to see it. If I'm like riding on a public air, you know, if I'm on an airplane with something or someone. But like, from an artistic point of view, I think it's cool if people do wear like slinky things, if it's to the club or like a very late night restaurant, or like you're in new york or something. I think that's cool. And I also do think if someone has like a body that they just are, like, are so proud of and want to flaunt, I do think there's like it is cool, like I think that I'm not gonna lie, it's not, it's not bad, but, um, I think it can be done in like a classy, artistic way rather than just like a raunchy way so you think that maybe uh kanye's um friend when she did her naked thing?

Speaker 1:

do you think that was a little over the top, or?

Speaker 2:

it's always like the line of what is just trying to get attention and like selling yourself out and what is? What are you doing? Because you're so proud of your body and because it is like daring. So I see both. I see both of it. Like if I was just walking down the street and I saw someone completely dressed like that, of course, like I'd look and everyone, everyone else would be looking, but, um, I think that there's like a time and a place for it so, in other words, if they're going to some kind of event, that's one thing versus.

Speaker 1:

You know, you're getting on the bus and you kind of see this person sitting there almost naked yeah, yeah, exactly.

Speaker 2:

I don't want them on a public seat. I don't want to. I don't want it to affect me in any way. I don't want to have to touch or see things that I normally would don't want to. But I I did notice that was a trend with the emmys for like the very little bit that I did see yes, it was lot of sheer, but there's a part of me I would be lying if, like, these people are gorgeous and just like have aspirational bodies, even if they're all on Ozempic or whatever. But I still it's cool. It's like I don't know, there's a part of me that's still of course. It's like we want to see pretty things and the human, like the animal side of me is like, yeah, of course I want to see this.

Speaker 1:

Well, I think you're going to see a lot more of it.

Speaker 2:

Yeah, I hope that. I mean not to say that everyone should be able to show whatever they want sometimes, but then too much of a good. You know, we don't want too much of a good thing.

Speaker 1:

That's true. That's true. You have to leave something to the imagination.

Speaker 2:

Exactly, exactly. But I used to think of I don't know why I always think of women. It's so funny because I forget that men could actually do this too. But I feel like back in the day, like when in the Cindy Crawford days, when people just wore like denim cutoffs and like a blouse or something like that, that's like the peak. I thought we could all agree where that's like the best point to be at.

Speaker 1:

Yes, that is true, that is true. But you know everyone wants to take it to that next level. I know.

Speaker 2:

They already do on TikTok. But we'll see how this is going. My last story for today US officials said they've reached a deal, or a framework for a deal, with China over TikTok. You know, a few months ago we were all scared that it was going to end. I definitely cried and then it was back and now it's back in a weird way. I don't know if anyone else feels this way, but, like my algorithm is so weird, it definitely does feel like something is changing, has changed, because it's not just the normal algorithm.

Speaker 2:

Trump posted on social media that a deal was reached with a certain company that young people in our country want to save. They will be very happy. Uh, the relationship between china remains a great one. A lot of people are saying, oh god, the people that he has working on this is like some of the people that have implemented this in china different countries where it is more of like kind of a surveillance state. You're not allowed to totally have freedom. So a lot of people are like saying, get off of TikTok and you know they're going to see what you search, but to me, I like it that much that they're free to watch me, watch whatever you know.

Speaker 1:

Yeah, I definitely. I mean, one of the interesting things is the whole idea about you know, banning tiktok or having a us company own it is the fact of you know privacy and system information being shared with china. And am I really surprised that they have a deal on the table? No, I'm not, Because this administration came in and you know it got the cancellation got moved. They, you know they got moved several times, so it's not really a big surprise. To be honest with you, I just hope that people just be smart about what you put out there and what information.

Speaker 2:

Exactly, exactly, and don't be like on live saying weird things or whatever you know like. I just use that as a way to like look at different parts of the world, or vacations or you know stuff like that yeah, that's true.

Speaker 1:

I mean social media, if you write, is a great thing. Um, you start going down that rabbit path when you start looking for crazy stuff to follow and, yeah, the algorithm whether it's tiktok, facebook, instagram, it doesn't matter it pays attention to what you search for. Yeah, yep, have you ever been in a situation where you look for something and it's not even on social media, but maybe you just google something you wanted to find out? You know, maybe you want to buy a refrigerator, you maybe want to shop for a car and then, all of a sudden, you're on social media and you start getting like 50 000 advertisers all the time, all the time, and I'm like, wait, I just mentioned this to a friend I don't even want it'll be like tampa, florida.

Speaker 2:

I'm like I just talked about like someone's aunt going to tampa, like I don't need to go there I don't know about you, but that's kind of scary.

Speaker 1:

What do you think? Think?

Speaker 2:

Oh, it definitely is. And just like I think now, especially in the past couple of weeks, with all these news and all these things, it's like more opinions than we're ever supposed to take on in our little brain. That's why I'm sleep messaging you videos about toothpaste at 3am.

Speaker 1:

Though I gotta admit I like the glitter toothpaste though.

Speaker 2:

Okay, good, I know the AI, the things calm me down. I'm like you haven't slept in 10 days. Which room are you choosing? I don't know why, but that just calms me down.

Speaker 1:

That's true. Well, it's never boring with AI, though.

Speaker 2:

Exactly Never boring. Yep, Well, this was fun.

Speaker 1:

Yes, it was Talk about fun, Merle. What do you have coming up?

Speaker 2:

I'm going to plug a weird show, but a weird but fun show coming up October 9th. I'm performing at a mortuary, which is very fitting now that comedy is dead, but it's called Missing at the Mortuary and it's in Pasadena, california. It's called Missing at the Mortuary and it's in Pasadena, california. So if anyone lives in that area, it's called the Lamb Family Mortuary. I don't know, there's some things coming out about the Lamb Family that's on Netflix, about a true crime kind of murder mystery thing. So yeah, that's October 9th and the show is called Missing at the Mortuary and then it's in Pasadena.

Speaker 1:

So is that a real?

Speaker 2:

mortuary that you guys want to do? Yep, I heard there's a casket on stage. Alrighty, now.

Speaker 1:

Is it closed or do they still operate as a mortuary?

Speaker 2:

They still operate as a mortuary.

Speaker 1:

Really.

Speaker 2:

I know I'll do anywhere. I'll do comedy anywhere. Alrighty, now Exactly.

Speaker 1:

I'm ready now. Exactly If I'm in Pasadena I probably won't be there, but you know You'll be there in spirit.

Speaker 2:

Hopefully, not, hopefully, you won't be there. In spirit.

Speaker 1:

Wow, okay, very different. I can tell you that, yep, absolutely Well. If anyone's in the area, definitely stop by and support Meryl.

Speaker 2:

We definitely would appreciate it thank you, you're always so sweet about that well everyone.

Speaker 1:

Thank you for watching and supporting us. Thank you for continuing to listen to our podcast stream LRodTVnetworkcom. Please feel free to reach out to us on all of our social media outlets for any comments about what we said, what we talked about, and maybe even ideas about shows or topics that you want us to talk about.

Speaker 2:

Exactly, and I think I want to say too I totally respect. I'm sure I hope people listening probably have different opinions of what we're saying, and I'm always open to like nicely and respectfully talking to people.

Speaker 1:

So yeah, I agree, I agree 100. Well, this has been a lot of fun. I'm lauren selrod. I'm maryelle climo. Have a great day everyone.

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