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Driverless Taxi Meets Police Standoff for 12/6/25

• Lawrence Elrod & Meryl Klemow

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We move from a driverless taxi rolling into a police standoff to the future of drones overhead, a five-era brain map, the grind behind hand modeling, SNAP funds at risk, and the strange freedom of a 2,000-person nude cruise. Safety, control, and dignity tie the stories together.

• Waymo enters active police scene and safety implications
• Passenger control, overrides, and edge-case failures
• Brain rewiring across five life eras and maturity
• Walmart drone delivery trade-offs and privacy concerns
• Hand modeling discipline, income, and industry demand
• SNAP funding threats, ethics, and real-world impact
• Nude cruise norms, consent, hygiene, and freedom
• Live show details and invite to connect

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SPEAKER_00:

Hello everyone. Welcome to this week's episode of Thirsty Topics. I'm Lawrence Elrot.

SPEAKER_01:

And I'm Meryl Klimo.

SPEAKER_00:

Hey Meryl, how are you?

SPEAKER_01:

Hey, hey, hey. I like your Bears shirt.

SPEAKER_00:

Thank you. Thank you. You know, uh, I had to bring out the shirt being that we uh we beat the Super Bowl champions on Friday. So the Bears are on top. Some people don't like it. Get over it.

SPEAKER_01:

Was it who were they playing the Raiders?

SPEAKER_00:

Um, they were playing the um not the Raiders, they were playing the um not the Eagles, right? Russell Williams team. I can't believe I forgot the name of the team. Ridiculous. Wow.

SPEAKER_01:

Do you know anything about what's a maybe I could I could help? I mean like I'll help. I'll just name the teams that I know, not the Eagles, not the Kansas City Chiefs.

SPEAKER_00:

It was the Philadelphia Eagles.

SPEAKER_01:

Oh, okay, that makes sense because I have a best friend in Philadelphia who was very upset on Friday, so that's why.

SPEAKER_00:

So he probably would not like my shirt today, huh?

SPEAKER_01:

No, exactly, exactly.

SPEAKER_00:

And you know what's so crazy is that even though the Bears are on top, top of the NFC NFC division leader right now, um people are still giving so much slack. It's like people just love to hate the bears, which is crazy.

SPEAKER_01:

Yeah. Um, this friend went to the Super Bowl last year when the Eagles were in the in it.

SPEAKER_00:

Really?

SPEAKER_01:

Yep, and it was super cool. But yeah, so I'm hoping that your Bears will be in the Super Bowl this year.

SPEAKER_00:

I hope so. I mean, we definitely have a good shot at it.

SPEAKER_01:

Yeah.

SPEAKER_00:

Well, this is interesting. Um, a self-driving taxi takes passengers into the middle of police activity. No, we talked about these these driverless guys.

SPEAKER_01:

Going crazy and like hitting cats and everything. Yeah.

SPEAKER_00:

Um, just imagine being a passenger in the vehicle. Uh, it's driverless, and a high-risk felony arrest was taking place with a man laying face down on the road outside of his vehicle and cops pointing guns at him. Police said that um they had been pursuing the suspect in a stolen vehicle and had not yet blocked off traffic when the Waymo approached the standoff. Cops can be heard shouting for the driverless car to move out of the way. Good luck with that. Um Waymo made the left turn into the intersection in the line of fire.

SPEAKER_01:

Ooh, that's so scary.

SPEAKER_00:

People filming the incident in different vehicles um basically said, What the fuck is that Waymo do? Waymo spokesman told ABC News the taxi came across the street, blocked by police vehicles early Friday before turning into an area that was not blocked off, where the other vehicles were also trapped. Waymo said that the vehicle was in the vicinity for no more than 15 seconds. Okay.

SPEAKER_01:

Um that's a long time though.

SPEAKER_00:

That's not as short as they make it out to be, being that it takes a second uh for something to go horribly wrong.

SPEAKER_01:

Yeah, yeah.

SPEAKER_00:

So they said safety is a highest priority at Waymo, both for people who choose to ride with us and with whom we share the streets. When we encounter unusual events like this, we learn from them as we continue improving road safety and operating in dynamic cities, these spokesman said. Yeah, I don't think I'd feel too comfortable in that situation.

SPEAKER_01:

No, me neither. I mean, it's it is so scary that these things are like whoopsies, well, we're working on that, or like oopsie, you know, like there should not be like any whoopsies. I feel like this should all be tested out like a thousands of times before it hit the public market.

SPEAKER_00:

Oh, I agree. And and you know, the crazy thing to me, Merrill, is this isn't a whoopsie incident. What if they were open fire and all of a sudden you got the way mode that gets in the middle of fire, and now you have this passenger that can be hurt or possibly killed because the drive the driver of this car is like, dude, do do do do let's go this way.

SPEAKER_01:

Yeah, I don't know.

SPEAKER_00:

I I just think that um, like I said, I've never been a real fake fan of it, and this probably just kind of um strengthens my belief of not writing in the text and it drives me. I mean, what do you what about you, Mirror?

SPEAKER_01:

Um, it makes me from like a writer's point of view, too, it makes me really want to write something in a script where like this happens. And I mean, this is just like definitely like a movie moment where the character is just trapped inside the car and like either goes into the middle of an intersection of something funny, or like I feel like it's only a matter of time before we start seeing in TV shows and movies like some punchlines about self-driving cars or people being stuck in them, or you know, this type of thing. But in real life, I still have not been in a Waymo yet at all. They're all over Los Angeles. Um, I see them all the time and I drive next to them all the time, like when I'm in more of like the Hollywood like central area, but uh I still don't like them and don't trust them.

SPEAKER_00:

I mean, I would think that the passenger in that vehicle was probably terrified beyond belief.

SPEAKER_01:

Yeah, yeah. Yep, absolutely. And I mean that's scary. And it's also if if police and everyone are trying in the middle of doing their jobs like in a standoff, it's like what you don't need is a white car, white Waymo just like making its way to the middle.

SPEAKER_00:

I mean, I mean, glad I'm glad no one got hurt, but I can just picture how comical this is. They're yelling at this car to get out of the way, it's like, okay, you guys realize there's no driver there, right?

SPEAKER_01:

You know, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. And and that's the thing too. I think that'd be one thing if like it was helping us drive, but it seems like when you're just kind of stuck there and like you either can't get out or you can't move, that is such a not a good feature that anyone wants to have. And like, yeah, it's just really scary.

SPEAKER_00:

Oh no, exactly. I mean, I've seen people talk about how they use Waymo's and they had an incident where there was a malfunction, and the Waymo kept taking them in in a circle and went on to share all kinds of horror stories. Now, granted, it's very, very minimal when it does happen. Yeah, it's not minimal when you're in that vehicle when the malfunction is taking place.

SPEAKER_01:

Yeah, I wonder how it will do too, with like if like a drawbridge goes up or like a pot, like something that you wouldn't normally see, you know, something like that. Um, I can just see a Waymo like driving someone up a up a drawbridge and down onto like police activity.

SPEAKER_00:

You know what's kind of scary. You wonder if that would happen.

SPEAKER_01:

Yeah.

SPEAKER_00:

But what do you probably what do you do as a passenger though?

SPEAKER_01:

I don't know. That's what I mean. Is people should be able to like with ease get out of their Waymo or take control if they need to and stuff, you know.

SPEAKER_00:

That is so true. That is so true. Because you're right. I didn't even think about that. Because I know in Chicago we have a lot of bridges that we raise up, you know, to let the boats go through. And it's like, will the Waymo be smart enough to realize hmm, this bridge is going up, maybe I should stop, you know?

SPEAKER_01:

Exactly. Uh yeah, I don't I don't even want to know.

SPEAKER_00:

Yeah, but yeah, I don't think I'll be getting in a driverless car anytime soon.

SPEAKER_01:

No, me neither. And and I know people say, like, yes, there's absolutely so much human error and everything, but at least, like, I don't know, at least I don't know what any Uber drivers that would drive me directly into a police activity. Maybe they're there they're definitely RFU and everything, but yeah. Well, I thought this was really interesting. Um, a new study from University of Cambridge examined MRI brain scans from nearly almost 4,000 people, ranging from infants to 90 years old, and they found that the structure changes gradually, and that our brain rewires in five distinct lifelong eras. So just like Taylor Swift had her eras tour, they're saying that our brain has like five eras that we go through. Um, I won't get too much into it, but basically it's like childhood, adolescence, adulthood, early aging, and late aging. So I feel like right now you and I are in our childhood era, which is uh 32 to 66, unless you're either in your unless you're either 28 or 72 and not telling me, but I assume that we're in the same era. Um, so right now that era is the longest stable phase during which brain wiring largely stabilizes and connectivity patterns shift towards a more compartmentalized and organized network. So I guess like, did you feel? I mean, obviously we feel different, but like when from when you're an adolescence, which is supposed to go to like your 30s almost, which I I thought adolescence ended when you're like 21 or 22. Did you feel like a definite year that you kind of felt like you matured a lot?

SPEAKER_00:

You know, I've always told people that you know there's different phases in everyone's life. Like, for example, when you're 18 versus 30 years old, you're literally two different people.

SPEAKER_01:

Yeah.

SPEAKER_00:

Even from 21 to 30, you're two different people. And I think that that's true, even when you're looking at 30 from 40, and then even to 50. You know, you change based on life experiences and what you've been through. So, oh yeah, I've definitely experienced that. How about you?

SPEAKER_01:

Um, I still feel like in many ways I'm very, very, very immature, but like uh I definitely feel it's it's so funny. I honestly feel like being in like a long relationship has like settled my brain more than anything else, just because I honestly feel like if I was single or didn't have like, you know, a partner that I was tethered to, I still feel like I would probably be acting very immature, especially since I don't have children and stuff. So I feel like being in like a long-term relationship kind of made my brain develop like a little bit more, you know, just because you kind of have to like deal with someone else. Um, and I feel like if I I would fear for the world and everyone, if I was just like by myself, just off in the universe, I feel like I would still be acting kind of immature. But um, yeah, I I feel like there's definitely a difference. I did not like when I turned 40, that was my brain was probably exploding. I did not like that feeling.

SPEAKER_00:

Well, you know what you're saying is actually pretty true because if you think about things that happen to you in life and you run across a difficult situation, let's say someone pisses you off or something, you get real angry. Your reaction as a single person is much different than your reaction as a married person or a person into a committed relationship. Because when you're in a relationship, you understand that your actions affect another person and other people. So you approach it differently than if it was just you and you know, you didn't have any kind of relationships.

SPEAKER_01:

A hundred percent. That's why sometimes some of my single friends, whether it's the guy or them, saying, like, I can't be in a relationship, I just need to like focus and work on myself. I'm like, I do I do you have to do so much work when you're in a relationship on yourself, or you know, it's almost more when you're with a partner, you have to like, because you're kind of tethered to someone else. So um, yeah, but I thought that was really interesting. And I definitely think I feel like there's one of the uh the eras 66 and 83. And I feel like to me, when you're when you turn 66, I think that's also a lot of people are just like in a good way, they kind of feel free of caring what others think about them, and they're more like that's almost you get like a second wind to me, because it's like, okay, I've lived life and I'm wise, and now I don't really care about like what everyone else is saying, so I could have fun.

SPEAKER_00:

Yeah, and you know, you don't have to be 66 to feel that because I'm like I'm like that now. You know, there's there's so many people, and and I I learned this a long time ago, especially when I started getting into doing this kind of stuff um with different shows and stuff. And I was told this, see, you're gonna have people that are gonna hate you that one don't even know you, yeah, don't even have a reason to hate you. And you know, in this business, what we do here, you have to have thick skin because you can have the greatest show, you can have the greatest project, and you got people hating on you that one don't even know you, and two have no reason to hate on you, just hate on you just because, right, exactly.

SPEAKER_01:

Yeah, yeah, and that's very true. And I feel like people's brains, different eras, it's like, okay, you know, what you're going through at 30 may be completely different than what you're at 66. Or I I see too a lot of times a lot of my friends have parents that did not like make the best choices, and they didn't they don't have friends, they don't have anything, and now their 60s are like really, really hard for them because of choices they've made in their 40s and 50s, you know.

SPEAKER_00:

That's true. But the one thing I always look at is if you have breath, you have a chance.

SPEAKER_01:

Exactly, absolutely.

SPEAKER_00:

It's never too late. As long as you can breathe, you have a chance to change things.

SPEAKER_01:

Yep.

SPEAKER_00:

Well, talk about changes. Don't know how you feel about this, Merrill, but Walmart expands its drone delivery program in Atlanta. So basically, in several different states, they have a program where you can order something and they have a drone that picks it up and takes it to your home and delivers it. Um, obviously, it it comes in a small box uh so the drone can pick it up. Um, it's only a few pounds, whatever it is that they deliver, but supposedly it's supposed to speed up the delivery process. Do you think that's a good thing, Meryl?

SPEAKER_01:

Um I mean, we kind of predicted this with just like all the crazy things flying around. I still don't. Maybe it's like so old school, but I still like the thought of employing humans. And like I feel like there's a lot of people out there that could use the work um and they could pick local people so that like there's still same-day delivery.

SPEAKER_00:

I agree. I agree. I mean, I guess some concerns could be is um, you know, what if there's a malfunction with the drone and you know crashes into someone's home or drops it on someone's vehicle.

SPEAKER_01:

Oh my gosh, or picks up someone's dog or something.

SPEAKER_00:

I mean, you never know, you know. Yeah, and and you know, the other thing too is you're right, it is gonna take away jobs. And you know, the other thing you have to look at too is having a few drones to make deliveries is one thing, but when you start spreading this out and other uh merchants start doing this, now you're gonna have a flood of drones in the sky. And you know, as a person who really, really appreciates and respect for privacy, I don't want no drone flying next to my house.

SPEAKER_01:

Exactly. I don't even know how to regulate that exactly. It's like, okay, there's the Walmart drones coming, and now here's the like JC Penny drones coming. Like, I don't even know how they would do that with if every business just started delivering that way.

SPEAKER_00:

Oh, yeah. And and you know, some people have a real concern is well, what if this drone is peeping into my house recording?

SPEAKER_01:

Yeah, that's true. And you know, we know that they're definitely going to be tracking, like, okay, this zip code has this type of car, you know, like the way that they're tracking our phones already, and like just everything we already do, or look at or purchase online. I think they would totally be doing that.

SPEAKER_00:

Well, absolutely. I mean, there's times, Merle, I kid you not, where I have talked about looking up something with my wife, and next thing you know, I get commercials.

SPEAKER_01:

Oh, yeah, absolutely.

SPEAKER_00:

Yeah, exactly.

SPEAKER_01:

And then a drone flying above us is not gonna be not gonna be good. So yeah, I feel like I don't know, I'm I'm happy for that. And there's a part of me that, like, unless you are disabled, I then in that case I understand, but like if you need something from Walmart immediately, like if you are able to just go there sometimes, I think like it's okay to just kind of still be inconvenienced and drive. Some people can't, but like if you can and you need something that day, um, I still feel like we could do it in the human way, or or we could wait a day or two and like let the normal delivery come through.

SPEAKER_00:

That's true. I mean, unless we're talking about medicine, you know, something life, life or death, there's really no reason to have something go out a few minutes after you order it. It really is.

SPEAKER_01:

I know, I know. Or if you do, sometimes, like for me, it's just sometimes laziness where I'm like, I need paper towels, I can't be bothered. And I'm like, okay, get your big booty up and go get paper towels. And it sometimes it's like it's not that it's fun to go run errands, but it is like you I always feel like engaged in the world, you know, just to go. But uh Walmart is a different story. I I understand why people don't really want to go, and it can be very hectic, and like even just the fluorescent lights make me crazy in Walmart and stuff, but yeah.

SPEAKER_00:

I did not see anything about uh any locations in California they're doing it. Are they are do they have any kind of drone?

SPEAKER_01:

No, luckily not, definitely not. If so, I'd be I'd ask them for it to take me away. Just pick me up and plop me somewhere else. But um, yeah, luckily not. I mean, we have so many like Amazon men, you know, or Amazon people and like delivery drivers. I feel like it's insane. Um, especially with like Black Friday and everything, that's just you know crazy. I just feel like it things have gotten a little out of hand with just all of us ordering like individual things every day. I'm I'm guilty of that too. But um, I saw TikTok where a guy was like, Really? You ordered this 19-piece bed off of FedEx and now I have to deliver like your bed in 19 pieces.

SPEAKER_00:

Yeah, I honestly like that. They weren't too happy.

SPEAKER_01:

Yeah, so so yeah, no drones. Um I say no to drones for now.

SPEAKER_00:

There you go.

SPEAKER_01:

Um, well, someone that is not going to be handling her packages with no care is um a woman with, quote, the most beautiful hands in the world makes over$2,000 a day from them. Uh Ivesha Tiwani admitted there are some big misconceptions around her work. So pretty much she's a 35-year-old um and has started in the hand modeling industry. So, like a lot of people have said before to her when she was growing up, like you have beautiful hands and nails, you should get an agent or something. And she did. And then now she's worked with Starbucks, Coca-Cola, uh, Kylie Cosmetics, and she's had to change. I thought this was really interesting because she's had to change her lifestyle in order to preserve her hands for work. So obviously, she has to like wear gloves when she's doing the dishes. Um, she used to be into boxing and she's had to give that up too, and just keep her like nails and hands really beautiful. Now I I saw, and she does have beautiful hands. I think something that's really interesting too is that she's like um like has like a middle tone to her skin. Basically, like, you know, you you wouldn't be able to know exactly like what she is. It's kind of like a she definitely has like a, I think she is like a mixed ethnicity, so it's like she could model for pretty much any type of situation that they want, which she was saying in the article that seems to be something that a lot of commercial places like right now, where like the client um, you know, wants to to show that it it can be like, you know, whatever. She said she her quote was. Being a middle skin tone person right now is a very good thing for the industry. Um, so you know, having an ambiguous look, I think has been very helpful for her. So I thought that's really interesting that someone could make two thousand dollars. Now I would be the the before photo with like stubby. I have my nails are always bit. Like maybe I could pitch myself to her and say if they need like a before photo, I would nominate myself.

SPEAKER_00:

Hey, you know what? Any way a person can make their hustle and make that money, I tip a hand off to them.

SPEAKER_01:

So exactly. Yeah, and I I've had one or two friends in Los Angeles, um, female friends that have done hand modeling, and yeah, you have to get your nails done like really beautiful, and they just use it to show products, or you know, of course, no one wants to be looking at like someone's nasty nails if they're like eating a French fryer on TV or something.

SPEAKER_00:

So I would imagine, even though the pay is great, I would imagine it's gonna be a pain in the ass sometime, you know, knowing that you have to be so careful around your hands, you know.

SPEAKER_01:

Yeah, I know. But imagine you do it for like four days a month, and then you've made like over eight thousand dollars and you could just chill.

SPEAKER_00:

That's true, that's very true. I mean, it's a great way to make a six-figure income without doing a full-time job.

SPEAKER_01:

Exactly. Yep.

SPEAKER_00:

Unfortunately, um this subject here um is not a good one. Um remember we talked about the um the pause to snap funding, and yeah, that was turned back on after they ended the shutdown. Well, now the Trump administration's um has a new SNAP funding threat right now. So basically, what they're doing is Trump officials threatening withhold SNAP funds from democratic-led states.

SPEAKER_01:

What? That really seems like it should be that's like a breach of the constitution or something. Like that just seems so illegal.

SPEAKER_00:

And what's so crazy about it, Merrill, is they want the democratic states to give up information on the people that receive SNAP and their um their their immigration status is what they want, and contact information. And you know, the thing is, regardless of what side of the fence you're on, this is so wrong on so many different levels. It really is. You know, now you you're playing pond with people's lives for political gain. I that's not cool. That's not that's not a good thing at all.

SPEAKER_01:

I know. No, I I don't know this to get SNAP benefits. Do you have to have like a um a social security number? Or I don't even know, do you have to prove that you're an American citizen, even just like enrolling in the program?

SPEAKER_00:

Um from what I from what I I understand, um the SNAP benefits is something that you have to be um you have to be a naturalized citizen or at least an American citizen um in order to receive the intricates of it, I'm not really sure about, uh, but it's not something that's rolled out to immigrants coming into the country.

SPEAKER_01:

Exactly, because I don't even understand how someone would get that if they are undocumented, like how would how would they even be registered or like you know, all that kind of stuff. But yeah, I feel like that is not the way to go about it by threatening to take away people's snap benefits, and then or you know, and then it affects some areas of the country, like people in Florida would get it, but other people wouldn't in California wouldn't. Like that just seems so weird.

SPEAKER_00:

Well, and then the other thing too is you're punishing everyone. Yeah, you're not picking and choosing people, you're just cutting it off for the whole state, and that's not right. That's not right at all.

SPEAKER_01:

Yeah. That seems like it's like if like mom and dad fight, and it's like, okay, now everyone has to go to bed because like you're being mean to your mother or something, and then it's like, yeah, it's just not doesn't seem fair or very strategic. And that's that seems like something that would like bite the candidate in the butt like a few years later, when you know, if if tides change, um, and like more Democrats got in power, that absolutely seems like something they would use against them in like the next election.

SPEAKER_00:

Yeah, and and you know, the other thing too, Meryl, is that I I don't know if the administration understands this, but when it comes to snap benefits, they don't ask your political party. Right. You're gonna inadvertently hurt your voters as well, too, by doing this.

SPEAKER_01:

Yeah, it'd be really interesting. I also feel like by doing this, they're like intonating that a lot of the people that get SNAP benefits are more from like liberal cities, and you know, like I think they have an idea of like the kind of person that uses it. But I feel like a lot of I I think both people that are affiliated with whatever are using it. Like, I think it helps a lot of people on whatever political spectrum.

SPEAKER_00:

Absolutely. I just think it's sad that you know politicians would you know basically use American citizens as pawn in their political games. I I just I just don't understand it. I don't understand me too.

SPEAKER_01:

And the way that like we even saw when Elon was there, just them trying to categorize anything like taxes, just all this information. It's like they think they're gonna be able to organize it that well, where like which states get what, and it just that it already seems like a nightmare to like a you know a bureaucra from a bureaucracy point of view. Just I don't believe it.

SPEAKER_00:

Let's just hope that this is only just a thread and it doesn't go through.

SPEAKER_01:

So yeah. Remember like a while back when they were telling government workers to like email three things you did that week, and then like Elon would decide whether or not you get to stay. What a mess.

SPEAKER_00:

Yes, it was. Yes, it was.

SPEAKER_01:

I kind of missed that time, though. That was that was it was entertaining. The whole doje of it all. Well, okay. Well, my last one for today is a complete 180 of this one. Um, a man who went on a 2,000 passenger nude cruise explains what it was really like on board. So, you know, a lot of people either love or hate cruises. One man shared his experience on Reddit of what it was like sailing the seas with 2,000 other people, totally nude. Um, anonymously, the 67-year-old man offered to answer any questions that people had. He booked a trip with a Texas-based travel company called Bare Necessities for clothing optional seven-day round trip. It departed from Tampa, Florida, and then went to Mexico and Honduras. Uh, and he said it wasn't a swingers cruise, it was just like, you know, newness. So people were saying, like, you obviously, if it's sunny out, you're gonna want to put on some clothing or cover yourself up in some way if you're on the cruise and like the sun is beating down on you. Um, he said most people were in their 50s to 70s. Now we just talked about your brain era developing. I wonder if a lot of people in their 60s are like, who cares? I'm going on a nude cruise.

SPEAKER_00:

I'm gonna ask the obvious question that probably a lot of men are thinking right now as they watch or listen to this. Um, what you're on this cruise with your significant other.

SPEAKER_01:

Yeah, that's true, that's true.

SPEAKER_00:

Um, let's see, how to be tactful about this. You're butt-necked and you're respectful, but a piece of your body is showing something else.

SPEAKER_01:

How do you handle it? Oh, that's true.

SPEAKER_00:

Because think about it.

SPEAKER_01:

Yeah, exactly, exactly. And maybe I have a feeling that I mean that'd be crazy if someone never dabbled in like nudist stuff, and then all of a sudden they went right on the cruise for like a few days. I have a feeling that most of these people probably are in like the nude world a lot of times. Um, and to me, it would be gross when you know, when there's a buffet and everyone's eating. Like, I don't want to be waiting in line for my prime rim and like be next to some guy or girl or anyone, you know, like have their genitals all around.

SPEAKER_00:

Oh, that would be interesting.

SPEAKER_01:

Yeah, it's almost from like a hygienic point of view, it kind of grosses me out. I can see a scenario where like if you're nicely in the sun and like sailing nicely, it's like okay, people can be topless or whatever. That would be fun and nice, but I think, yeah, if you're at the buffet or like at a disco or something, or like even you know, they have like poker rooms and stuff. Uh uh, no, thank you.

SPEAKER_00:

See, I don't know. So it's a certain things you should be nude. Because here's the thing now, if they have a barber, I would not be getting my bar, I would not be good in my haircut.

SPEAKER_01:

Yeah, no, I mean like sitting down in it and everything. If if anything, I would just like yeah, just just charter a yacht with like a few friends and do that. I don't want to be with people I don't know.

SPEAKER_00:

Yeah, I mean, again, it's it's interesting because like you know, when you get your hair cut, and I don't know why barbers do this, they like to get up on you a little bit too close to me.

SPEAKER_01:

No, really, no way.

SPEAKER_00:

To have a naked barber? No, no, no. We do it all that. I'll let my hair grow out, I'll deal with it when I get back home.

SPEAKER_01:

Exactly. And they said that the thank goodness the workers are clothed a lot. You know, imagine like the housekeeping, you the maid just like check doing your bed. But I mean, I think there's bet I think it's kind of a cool concept. I really do, and I feel like it would be very like fun to just in theory, but I don't want to see most people nude, and you know, it seems crazy. But it does seem like it seems that they're have elements of freedom and how cool it would be to like be walking around and be totally free, but um maybe not on like a big giant cruise.

SPEAKER_00:

Yeah, that's true. I mean, hoping that cruise is an adult only cruise, you know.

SPEAKER_01:

Yeah, they said it is too. And they said it's a lot of like 50 to 70 year olds, which is so funny.

SPEAKER_00:

Because let's think about it like this, Meryl. You got a bunch of naked people, you got licking, and it's all about Yeah. You can have your own live live view. Let me see how to say this. Your live show right in front of you.

SPEAKER_01:

Yeah, yeah, which I don't want to see.

SPEAKER_00:

Boy. That was a good topic. That was a really good.

SPEAKER_01:

It does seem like people in their 60s are just like, here we go. Like it's it's funny that like you would think this would be more of a college age thing or 30s or 40s, but it seems like once someone hits their 60s, they're like, they're just letting it all hang out.

SPEAKER_00:

Yeah, you know, especially, and you know the funny thing too, Maryland, you always have that one person that is kind of like really talk-of-that walks up and talk to anybody.

SPEAKER_01:

Oh, yeah, you can't be too extra extroverted.

SPEAKER_00:

But about it like this, you're sitting there, you're already a little nervous because you know, everybody naked, including yourself. Then these strangers walk up, how are you doing? Yeah, sitting down there standing up, and it's like, oh my god. So I'm like, no, I don't want to know this. So what is that cruise now?

SPEAKER_01:

Exactly. And the fact that it's like leaving from Texas, I think that's funny. It's called Bare Necessities, if anyone's interested.

SPEAKER_00:

Oh, nice. I like the name.

SPEAKER_01:

Yeah, it's cute.

SPEAKER_00:

Well, Merrill, what do you have coming up?

SPEAKER_01:

Um, well, I have I mentioned it last time, but I if anyone is in the Fallbrook area of San Diego, which is a nice winery, I will be performing at the Montserrat Winery, um, which is a beautiful, beautiful winery. I just I looked it up, and tickets are$55, but people get it, so there's a lot of comedians on the bill, and you get like a full nice dinner with rosemary, garlic, bread and butter as the rolls, too. I mean, then you get other things too, but this would be so funny. This is the first time I'm performing with like people eating really, really fancy food.

SPEAKER_00:

Nice, nice, yeah.

SPEAKER_01:

And I apologize to people. This is not a nude event, so uh clothing, clothing is you know, you should be wearing clothing.

SPEAKER_00:

Okay, so they shouldn't go in a hey, why is everybody got clothes on?

SPEAKER_01:

Exactly. Yeah, you don't want to be eating like a prime rib and just totally naked.

SPEAKER_00:

Well, everyone, if you're in the area, definitely make sure you step out and uh support Meryl. And also I want to thank everyone for watching us and listening to us. I'm Lauren Silra.

SPEAKER_01:

And I'm Meryl Klimo.

SPEAKER_00:

Take care, everyone.

SPEAKER_01:

Bye bye.

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