Politics, Pop Stars, And Public Backlash for 12/31/25

What happens when private choices meet public judgment? We dive straight into the week’s hottest flashpoints, starting with Nicki Minaj praising Donald Trump at a conservative event and the cascading backlash that followed. We talk honestly about fan expectations, platform responsibility, and why political signals from major artists can’t be separated from identity and community. Critique the stance, sure—but where’s the line between disagreement and harassment?

From there we shift to weddings and respect. Cake-smashing can be a cute smear or a humiliating slam. The difference is consent. We break down the social cues that separate playfulness from red flags, plus some practical advice if you want laughs without ruining outfits, photos, or feelings. That same theme of respect carries into finances: a spouse refusing to share their salary isn’t just a quirk, it’s a trust problem. We map out a simple path to transparency—income ranges, listed debts, shared goals, and quarterly reviews—so both partners have clarity and protection.

We also tackle holiday gift etiquette and why thoughtful re-gifting beats waste when done right: unopened, clean, and actually wanted. No junk transfers. Then a surprising education twist—kids struggling to read analog clocks—and why analog skills still matter for estimation, fractions, and cognitive flexibility. Finally, we address Simone Biles and Jonathan Owens facing outrage for Doberman ear cropping and tail docking. Opinions vary and vets disagree, but racist abuse and death threats are indefensible. If animal welfare is the goal, evidence and policy work better than pile-ons.

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Chapters

• 0:00 Warm Up And Bears Banter
• 3:13 Nicki Minaj, Trump Praise, And Fan Fallout
• 9:19 Cake-Smashing At Weddings: Red Flag Debate
• 17:35 Salary Secrecy In Marriage
• 22:19 The Etiquette Of Re-Gifting
• 28:06 Can Kids Read Analog Clocks?

Transcript

SPEAKER_02: 1:12

Hello everyone. Welcome to this week's episode of Thirsty Topics. I'm Lawrence Elrod.

SPEAKER_00: 1:18

And I'm Meryl Klevo.

SPEAKER_02: 1:20

Hey Meryl, how are you today?

SPEAKER_00: 1:22

Hey, hey, hey. I'm excellent. How are you?

SPEAKER_02: 1:25

I am doing fantastic. Looking forward to the last game of the season for the Bears before the playoffs starts.

SPEAKER_00: 1:33

Go Bears. I love that every uh every recording you have like a new Chicago Bears merch outfit. I feel like we should be sponsored by the merch store at this. If they're in the Super Bowl, I will order a Chicago Bears shirt and I'll wear it on one of these recordings.

SPEAKER_02: 1:51

Wow, really?

SPEAKER_00: 1:53

Yep. It's good since since I have like no allegiance to any uh sports teams whatsoever. I can just like whatever, whichever whatever ones my friends look like, I can just root for them.

SPEAKER_02: 2:05

Well, I'm gonna hold you do that.

SPEAKER_00: 2:08

Yeah, totally. I will. If they're in the Super Bowl, maybe that's a good one. They don't have to win it, they can just be in it. Well, I thought I I wanted to start us off just because I have like a weird but controversial one. Now I don't want any uh are are the barbs, is that the Nicki Minaj fans? That's the name that they're fan. I don't know. Sorry if that's Cardi B. But anyway, I don't want the barbs mad at me one way or another. But um, I don't know what is going on with Nicki Minaj lately, but she had, you know, um also I I say this with a caveat that like I don't feel like people should get canceled just because they are like a different political party from us. And for me, that goes like both ways. Like someone could absolutely be Republican or Democrat or whatever, and like I don't believe that they should get like canceled just right off the bat. But Nikki did find herself in a bunch of hot water lately, um, because she was it says she was full of praise for Donald Trump during her surprise appearance at a conservative event at a turning point USA America Fest conference, which like you know, turning point was the Charlie Kirk situation. We all know what happened with that, unfortunately. Um, and then she got a lot of backlash. She's been like weirdly out and about with Charlie Kirk's late wife, Erica Kirk, who like I am not the biggest fan of, but of course she just lost her husband. So, like, you know, I have respect in that aspect, but I'm also like not the biggest Erica Kirk fan or whatever. Um, but Nick during the appearance, Mickey expressed her respect and admiration for she's in the handsome and dashing Donald Trump, and then uh just was saying a whole bunch of other things. She like said something about like the word assassin to Erica Kirk, like she was talking about the it was just very, very bizarre, um, to the point where she was getting so much hate that she then deactivated her Instagram. Now there's a petition going around for her to get like kicked out and deported out of the country. So it has just gone so wild. So I guess like what are your thoughts on all of this? And to me, I I just feel like overall like Mickey Minaj is very entertaining. I don't think she's probably a very nice person, but like I do find her very entertaining, and she has some good music, but it's just it seems like it's gone a little bit cray cray.

SPEAKER_02: 4:29

Yeah, I mean, I guess there's a few points. For one, I was really shocked that she was on there. It's one of those stories again where when I first saw it, I actually thought it was fake until I did some research and go, yeah, oh crap, this is actually real. So I'm very surprised that she's uh um a Trump van supporter. I'm really shocked. Um, I do remember seeing a few stories that her her fans were so angry that she lost 10 million subscribers. I'm sorry, 10 million, 10 million.

SPEAKER_01: 5:05

Oh my gosh.

SPEAKER_02: 5:06

So she ended up having to shut her social media down just to kind of stop the bleed. And you know, it's one thing to say that you support someone, you know, good or bad, whoever, that's your choice. But it's a whole different thing when you get on a on a national platform for it because now you're getting into the political scheme, and we all know how polarizing and divisive politics can be. So I am very surprised that she went so deep into this.

SPEAKER_00: 5:35

Exactly. There's a part of me that just makes me feel like she doesn't maybe she doesn't even support this. She almost just wants to be able to do what she wants to do and like have it be like, my fans can't control me either way. I'm gonna say something shocking, and you know, you can't be mad at me. Also, the whole thing is very bizarre because like Charlie Kirk, I don't think, liked Nicki Minaj very much, and so it's also weird to me that now like his ex-wife is or not his ex-wife, his late wife, is like doubling down on that the fact that you know, like that kind of paling around with Nikki. So all of it is just weird to me. Um, and like I said, I can enjoy someone like Nikki's music, how we said, I can enjoy the person as an artist without having to know about it, but there comes a point where it's like don't be shocked when you start losing fans or where people start kind of not being into you as an artist anymore.

SPEAKER_02: 6:25

That's true, and you know, most of her fans are not Trump advanced supporters either. No, because of that, I can see the backlash. Um, you know, whether or not it's fair, that's a whole different conversation. But to me, when you start giving, even when we talk about it, you know, when we talk about politics, we kind of skirt around the edges. We don't really dive deep into it. So when you take that stance and you go deeper than that conversation, um, you have to pretty much expect that there's gonna be some some blowback, good or bad, from what you're doing.

SPEAKER_00: 7:00

Exactly.

SPEAKER_02: 7:03

So more power to her. Um, I'll just leave it there. More power to her.

SPEAKER_00: 7:09

I will continue to enjoy the same three songs that I've enjoyed 25 years ago. But yeah, but besides that, uh, I in a good way, my heart isn't broken because I will I will like Nikki just as much as I have for like you know, whatever amount of time a million years ago.

SPEAKER_02: 7:27

Well, talk about celebrations. I would love to get your input on this one, bro. Yeah. How do you feel about smashing the bridal cake, uh, the wedding cake in the face of your bride?

SPEAKER_00: 7:44

Hate it, red flag.

SPEAKER_02: 7:46

There is a big debate going on on social media, and this is what the internet is saying smashing cake in a bride's face is a highly debated uh wedding trend that is often considered a sign of disrespect and a potential red flag in a relationship, especially if it's done without her consent. Wow, some couples view it as a playful, lighthearted moment, and it can lead to emotional distress, ruin expensive attire and makeup, and even physical injury. Now, I can tell you, if I were to smash a cake in my wife's face when we got married, yeah, that marriage would have started off very well.

SPEAKER_01: 8:27

It would be enrolled before it started, yeah.

SPEAKER_00: 8:34

Like my parents have a really cute picture of them at their wedding, and it's like they were joking, like no one was smashing a cake into it. Basically, my dad and my mom were like having the cake in each other's hands and like mushing it. I feel like that's how it used to be. I don't know when it got translated to like body slamming your spouse into a cake, but I think the tradition basically used to be, you know, you feed each other the cake, but like you mush it around a little bit in a funny way where it just gets like lightly in their mouth, but it's not like a violent showing of love. But yeah, like I've seen a bunch of TikToks where it's really like a red flag when you see the way that the the husband or whoever will like slam the bride's wife into the cake, and it's just like that from the beginning. I can just pretty much tell that the marriage is gonna be doomed.

SPEAKER_02: 10:17

Yeah, I mean, me personally, I mean, when when me and my wife got married, you know, we did like a little slight little finger and just put it on on the nose or whatever. You know, that was the extent of what we did. Um, would I smash my wife's face into a cake? Absolutely not. I think that's so cool. And you know, the other thing too is you can hurt her by doing that. Oh, yeah. You can mess up that very expensive dress that they're gonna wear one time and never wear it again in their life, Dom's could also get us a separate conversation, but yeah, exactly.

SPEAKER_00: 10:49

But still, yep.

SPEAKER_02: 10:51

So it's so many reasons, and here's the other thing, too. It's one thing if the husband and wife are in on it, but if the wife doesn't know what you're about to do, I think that is disrespectful.

SPEAKER_00: 11:05

Yeah, no, I agree, and I definitely think you're right. I've seen videos of people for birthdays smashing cake into their and like the candles go up their nose and like hurt their face, and it's just you don't know what's gonna happen, and plus it's it's humiliating. So I think like something silly if you want to like put it on their nose or you know, something goofy like that, but you don't have to like hurt one basically or embarrass them.

SPEAKER_02: 11:27

Oh, yeah, and you know, let's be real, these cakes are incredibly expensive, they're not cheap cakes at all. I know. I mean, if you're gonna smash each other's face, even if you have both agreed, you know, get you a little cake from like, you know, a little corner store or something, you know, that you spent a few dollars on and stuff, you know.

SPEAKER_00: 11:47

You know, my my boyfriend would not do that, but what he does do, which is very annoying, is that for my birthday I wanted um like squirt guns, like water guns. So he got me two water guns, and then now in the house, we will like shoot each other. Not not in the face, but he'll like take the water gun and like squirt me. And then the other day I was lying so nicely in bed and like comfy and with the blankets on, and he took the water gun and like like shot me in bed, and I was like, oh my god. I was like, that is so cruel to do, and I'm like now, like you don't know my revenge. Like when he's coming home after a long day of work, I'm gonna hide and like get him with the gun.

SPEAKER_02: 12:27

Well, at least it's not like you guys are are doing it with the simple ones because some of these guns are like little power mini machine gun type water guns, you know.

SPEAKER_00: 12:38

Like getting it's not the great thing, so yeah. No, it's pretty easy. That's so funny. My next topic is another uh spouse-related one. Now, this one is about people that are already married. I saw this one um where a husband was slammed for refusing to share his salary with his wife, saying that she was trying to control him. Uh, a frustrated wife took to Reddit to ask for advice on how to handle the fact that her husband won't reveal what he earns. In a post on Reddit, the original poster shared how her and her husband have been together for nine years. Um, they were married for one year. She revealed that he was always private about his finances and that he handles all the couple's finances while she takes care of like the home stuff. Um, but he's never disclosed to her, nor will he disclose to her how much money he makes annually or give any insight into his finances. Now, what do you think about this?

SPEAKER_02: 13:39

I think he has a very, very special wife because the average wife would not let that right, and it's like how do you not even know?

SPEAKER_00: 13:47

Like, that's not good for anyone involved to not know like what your mortgage is or what the bills are, or like how much money you have in the savings.

SPEAKER_02: 13:55

Or better yet, how much you even make a year? I mean, the very minimal. Now, there are some some situations where um, you know, there's one person uh that handles all the finances because the other person just doesn't want to do it, and that's fine, dandy, but they still have an idea what the bills are, they still know what each other's salaries are and stuff like that. Yeah, but when you're taking care of everything and you don't even want them to know how much you make, I don't know. That's kind of to me getting into some um some very, very questionable actions because it's like, what are you really hiding? And I'm saying this as a man, you know.

SPEAKER_00: 14:34

Yeah, exactly. Exactly. Like I don't know exactly like I have an idea. I don't know what like what every single paycheck that my boyfriend takes home is just because it will differ because of hours and everything. I don't care about that, but but we have like a general ballpark and we know how much everyone's paying for exactly the bills, and you know, like all the finances are pretty much there. I I feel like you could share as much as you want without having to like tell the number down to like the cent to anyone, but you should at least have an idea.

SPEAKER_02: 15:04

Yeah, I mean I guess there's a couple ways to look at it. I mean, if you're in a in a if you're dating in a serious relationship, that's one argument, but to me, if you're married, that's a whole different level. Yeah, you need to know what each other's making. There's no reason why you wouldn't know.

SPEAKER_00: 15:21

Totally. Even just legally covering yourself. If you're the woman, what if he's in debt? What if he's you know, you should you should know your finances, and I think that's a really big deal. I mean, it sounds like she's trying to be a good partner and he's like being evasive and hiding stuff, and I just think I kind of think it's one of those things like when there's smoke, there's fire. I just think that's a weird thing that he won't share with her for for even if it's like an emotional reason that's kind of an issue.

SPEAKER_02: 15:48

That's true, that's true. But something tells me if she starts talking to her girlfriends about this, she's gonna be a lot more aggressive to find out what his salary is and why he's hiding it.

SPEAKER_01: 15:58

So yeah.

SPEAKER_02: 16:03

Well, my next topic is a very interesting one, especially for this time of the year. Is it okay to re-gift?

SPEAKER_01: 16:16

I love it.

SPEAKER_02: 16:18

What do you think, Merle? Is it okay to re-gift?

SPEAKER_00: 16:21

Yeah, I think very much so. Like, if it's unused, obviously, if like you use a candle or you use like a face cream, please, God, don't re-gift it, it's yours now. Like, if you use it, it's yours. But to me, like, if I've got some nice lotion that I just for whatever reason don't want, and I like it's in the box, it's sealed up, I absolutely think it's fine to re-gift it. Or if it's like a sweater that you got that won't fit you and the tags are still on it, like I think that's totally cool. Just make sure that the person that you're not re-gifting to the same person accidentally.

SPEAKER_02: 16:55

I agree. And and I think that re-gifting is okay as long as there's some common sense rules. Number one, I agree, it shouldn't be new. Um, most importantly, it should not be used. Um, right. I don't want to call anyone out, but we've had a situation where someone regift something to us, and it looked like they got it out of the trash and just wrapped it and gave it to us.

SPEAKER_01: 17:21

Oh no.

SPEAKER_02: 17:24

Yeah, if you're gonna re-gift something, make sure it's something that you would want. Don't re-gift something that's used, that's in very poor condition, yeah, that's dirty. Uh it's amazing.

SPEAKER_00: 17:40

You're not gonna tell people your trash. Yeah, that it's not like a recycle bin.

SPEAKER_02: 17:45

Exactly, exactly. And I agree, there's a tactful way of doing it. And to me, if done right, there's nothing wrong with regifting at all.

SPEAKER_00: 17:54

Right. Yeah, I think so too. I'm trying to think if I've had any things regifted. I mean, I'm sure people have regifted, like anytime I get something random, like a like how he said, like face cream or like a body spray, you know, kit or something. I'm just figuring it is probably a regifted product, but I don't really care. Um, I used to have a friend that would cut out the magazine ads where the perfume is, and she would just give me like the pieces of paper with like with perfume samples on it. And at a certain point, I I had to tell her, like, I just don't want like strips of magazine with perfume, like thank you, but no thank you.

SPEAKER_02: 18:33

So she really thought that was okay.

SPEAKER_00: 18:36

Yeah, so we met and she had like a stack of like 40 pages of magazines of different perfumes. I'm like, I I don't I don't like but then but then also the thought of like okay, maybe this person had literally no money to give me a gift, and so they are giving what they could. Like, that's sweet too, thinking of people just you know having no resources or just using whatever they have, and for that situation, maybe it was like she had no actual cash to give me, but what she could do is like take perfume ads out of magazines to give me, which I in theory I think is sweet, but I'd rather just I think most of us would rather not get anything than get stuff that we kind of feel is like now a junk thing for us, you know, to now deal with.

SPEAKER_02: 19:19

I mean, I think that the important thing is if you give something, give it out of your heart. Don't give a gift just to be given one. Because sometimes people will buy these cheap, incredibly ugly, unuseful gifts that you know, because it's so cheap, they'll just give it to someone. Well, just give someone a ten dollar gift card instead of spending fifteen dollars on a piece of junk, you know, give them a ten dollar gift card. It's about the thought, it's not about the actual gift.

SPEAKER_01: 19:45

Well, then you pick another gift and you come up.

SPEAKER_02: 19:48

That's what it should be about.

SPEAKER_00: 19:51

Yep, I agree. And I I've seen things too. Like, I think it's cool if you thrift an item for someone, like it, but but once again, make sure that like if you've thrifted it, like then clean it, or you know, don't just give something to someone that's like right out of the thrift store that's kind of like dirty and dusty and musty. Like, you know, I think it's your job to no matter how you get it, to just to present it in like a nice clean way.

SPEAKER_02: 20:15

That is so so so true.

SPEAKER_00: 20:19

Okay, my next one, my phone just died, so I'm gonna grab it from my um email. So just give me a second. Thank you for everyone's patience. Um, I thought this one was super funny because uh this one is about a New York school discovered that kids cannot read a clock. I don't know if you could be able to be able to uh to look at a clock all the time, but it's still it takes me like a good second to uh look at a clock all that's exactly what time it is. So there was a and a teacher realized, oh wow, like uh kids were asking what time it is. People were frustrated because they had no clue like how many minutes were left in a class, to the point where the teacher just finally said, like, can everyone actually read the clock? And when she got down to it, the answer was no. People were having, even if they could like kind of understand, okay, it's 3 p.m. They didn't know exactly which hand was the minute hand and which hand was the hour hand. Um, and I thought that was so silly.

SPEAKER_02: 21:32

You know the scary part is I asked my son if he can read a watch. Without without reading it in digital, because you know, he's he was born into the the cell phone age, you know, where every kid has a cell phone now. So that's a great question because years ago you would think you'd be nuts to say this. But most kids don't even know how to write cursive now. So that that could be a thing.

SPEAKER_00: 21:59

Right. Exactly. And I don't fault the kids. I even feel too like if if I don't look at a watch or a clock for like months, then it almost you have to retrain your brain. Like I forget how to do it if I if I don't look at clocks for a while, you know? And I feel like um like my age, we pretty much started with more like digital clocks. So I I wasn't looking at a lot of watch hands or like there was a school clock, and you know, the minute that it got to like 3:30, it was like, yay, time to go home. But I think that's so crazy. Um, I do think it's important. I think like clocks and regular watches and stuff are so beautiful, and I I hope it's something that like is still kept in the future, just a way of telling times. I think it's a really nice like analog thing to be able to do. So I hope it's like a practice that you know your grandkids will still have.

SPEAKER_02: 22:49

Yeah, that's true. And um, you know, people watching and listening, I kind of challenge you. One, do you know how to read a regular clock? And then two, if your kids can read one. That's actually a great cup topic because I never thought about that, but yeah, you're right. That um most kids use cell phones now, everything is digital, so they don't really have a real old-fashioned clock anymore.

SPEAKER_00: 23:12

So exactly. And sometimes I'll even try to like close my eyes and be like, could I draw the like 12, 1, 2, 3, you know, like could I draw a clock right now? Um, because I think that's important too, to be able for us to like remember how that looks.

SPEAKER_02: 23:28

That is so true. That is so true. So yeah, that'll be kind of interesting to find out from uh from our listeners and our and the people who watch us. Yeah. Well, we're down to my last topic, and this one's an interesting one. So, Simone Biles and her husband, Chicago Bears star Jonathan Owens, are getting backlash over shortening and straightening of the ears and docking the tail of their new Doberman puppy. Now, I'm actually surprised that this is even a problem because this has been going for decades. This is not but um uh the breeder uh for the Doberman, who gave U.S. Olympic gold medalist Simone Biles, her new Doberman Pincher puppy, was with cropped ears, had spoken out against the the criticism he has received. William Roots told Newsweek that he received death threats and racist abuse after he posted about Biles and her husband Jonathan Owens on an NFL player getting their dog from his Georgia-based kennel, Regal Empire Doberman's. This is crazy. I mean, to to give someone death threats and all this, I think there's something deeper going on. I don't think it's really about the dogs personally, because if it was, you would have made noise a long time ago. Because again, this has been happening for decades now. I remember being a kid and seeing Doberman with their tail docked and the ears set up.

SPEAKER_00: 25:07

This is why this white picture, like every Doberman. I don't really see any Doberman with like a long tail and ears. I I really do think if you're sending race or death threats to someone, especially over this, like I think it should be taken seriously as a real legal thing, and you should get in like real trouble as though you're threatening someone for real.

SPEAKER_02: 25:31

Oh, I agree. And you know, the racist threats and the death threats, what once I see that to me, this has nothing to do with dog anymore. It's absolutely nothing to do with dog. There is there's other things.

SPEAKER_00: 25:44

Yeah, but we just want to race that so yeah, yeah, and that's like if anything, it could be addressed of like, okay, this may not be the healthiest thing for dogs, or I don't really know, but I would leave that to the professionals and like hear from veterinarians. But I don't think they're being cruel for no reason.

SPEAKER_02: 26:01

No, no, and again, I think that it was a big safety issue for for pets because dopens aren't the only dogs that get their tails docked. So yeah, to me, again, you have issues that have issues with everyone, don't just pick and choose and then go after them. Because to me, again, there's other things going on. This has nothing to do with the puppy.

SPEAKER_00: 26:24

Yeah, I really feel like if you're like a member of society and you're in someone's DMs threatening their life or saying something racist, like I think it should be shown to your employer and like you should be outed and just made to like have really big consequences. I really do.

SPEAKER_02: 26:39

I agree. And hopefully these people that are sending those very disgusting uh posts and threats, hopefully they are outed and people do know who they are.

SPEAKER_00: 26:50

Yeah, because I think I think online hate speech should be real. And unfortunately, there's a lot of bots going around where that just say that kind of stuff, but people that are real, actual people, like uh like I feel like your family should know, your job should know. Like, I I feel I'm I'm all in favor of like actual punishment, but yeah, that's weird, and I think maybe that's not the best thing for dogs. I don't really know, but we also like spay and neuter them, and that's important, and that's not really you know, a lot of people are annoyed about that, so it might not be ideal, but it's also they they're treating their dog nice, I'm sure there's a lot of dogs that need a home, then it's just they could they they could be doing worse things, you know, they're not dog fighting or anything.

SPEAKER_02: 27:31

That's true, that's true. So hopefully, um those people get out, and I totally agree with you.

SPEAKER_01: 27:38

Exactly.

SPEAKER_02: 27:39

Yeah, this episode went by very fast.

SPEAKER_00: 27:44

It did, I know. We're breezing, we're clipping it just like a Doberman's ears. Well, very pick a new a new show to promote. Okay, I will spare everyone of my strip club one that I've been mentioning for the past few weeks, and um I'm excited about there's a show that I have Friday, January 16th at the Hollywood Improv, and um it's all about Disney characters, so it'll be really fun. It's all about Disney villains.

SPEAKER_02: 28:14

Oh, nice, that should be a lot of fun.

SPEAKER_00: 28:17

Yep. So I would love also if people have any suggestions of Disney villains that you like or don't like, feel free to tell me, and I can work it into my set.

SPEAKER_02: 28:26

Nice. Now, are all the comics gonna be dressed up as a Disney uh villain?

SPEAKER_00: 28:31

Yeah, yeah. Everyone does like a like new five minutes on on different Disney villains.

SPEAKER_02: 28:37

Oh, now that'd be a lot of fun.

SPEAKER_00: 28:39

Yeah, so I haven't picked mine yet, but I need to go through some of the favorites and see.

SPEAKER_02: 28:45

Nice, nice. Well, let Meryl know what she should dress up as. It'll be interesting.

SPEAKER_01: 28:50

Yeah, for sure.

SPEAKER_02: 28:53

Well, everyone, thank you so much for watching and listening to us. We have so much fun, we enjoy your support. Remember to tell people who we are and share our information so other people can follow us as well. I'm Lauren Telra. And I'm Meryl Klebo. Hi, everyone.